Mandating the installation of EDRs - Black Boxes

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I wonder how hard it would be to remove it and if cars will be hardwired to have them or not work correctly.

I bet someone with a little knowledge of the system could remove/disconnect it.

Legality of such action? I got no idea. What if a car that should have EDR is part
of an accident and the investigators find out the device has been removed/disconnected.
What would happen then?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I bet someone with a little knowledge of the system could remove/disconnect it.

Legality of such action? I got no idea. What if a car that should have EDR is part
of an accident and the investigators find out the device has been removed/disconnected.
What would happen then?

Hypothetically speaking should one be in my car, I am honestly not overly concerned about the legality of removing a device such as this from my personal property.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Hypothetically speaking should one be in my car, I am honestly not overly concerned about the legality of removing a device such as this from my personal property.

Guess that's for the feds to decide.

Though, system like this could do some good too, in unclear situations, the data
from an EDR might prove to be crucial. But, of course, it can be a PITA too.

Ah well, like Bubbles said in another thread: I dont live there so what do I know.

[Ducimus]

These days with all that's been going on, I just get pigheaded about stuff like this. No thanks on the surveillance state.

[Gargamel]

It's just like the airbag or seatbelt law.

Cars without them will be grandfathered in, new cars will have them. Most already do. How do you think that Progressive Insurance data thingy works? By tapping into your black box.

I think these things are excellent for accident investigation. It helps place the blame on the correct party.

[soopaman2]

Got alot of toll roads here.

Got something called EZpass.

For those outside of America, it is a device that allows you to pay tolls without stopping.

It can also know when you drive at 90 mph on the Parkway or Turnpike, due to being able to measure your time between stops. I never got a ticket for my speeding. ( The GS parkway is unique, as 90 mph is the average speed, and the state police never really pull you over unless you are weaving traffic.)

I had one pass me at 90 mph and not only blazed by me, but waved at me on the way by.

A Strange dynamic.

I invite everyone to the NJ autobahn, stop off at exit 105 for tea or coffee with me.

[Wolferz]

Ah, New Jersey. The only state I know that charges a toll to leave it.

How much did you spend crossing that bridge on I-80 during your move, Wernher?

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Ah, New Jersey. The only state I know that charges a toll to leave it.

Can be called a cliche, but is true. No lie, we got more tolls than the River Styx.

[Ducimus]

I have to wonder...

Ok so my wife likes to watch "real housewives". No I don't think they're real housewives. The title of that show is a crock of BS. Should be more like "Really entitled Diva's". Anyway, are people in New Jersey really anything like what I watched (more like suffered through) in that real housewives series?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

It's just like the airbag or seatbelt law.

Cars without them will be grandfathered in, new cars will have them. Most already do. How do you think that Progressive Insurance data thingy works? By tapping into your black box.

I think these things are excellent for accident investigation. It helps place the blame on the correct party.

It won't be long before that Progressive Insurance data thingy is mandatory for all insurance companies. And if not mandatory, they'll make you pay a lot more if you don't allow them to tap into it.

Am I weird that I'm more irked about marketers and corporations knowing all about me than the government?

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It won't be long before that Progressive Insurance data thingy is mandatory for all insurance companies. And if not mandatory, they'll make you pay a lot more if you don't allow them to tap into it.

Am I weird that I'm more irked about marketers and corporations knowing all about me than the government?

You won't need the Progressive data thingy when they can just download what they want from your EDR after an accident. It has a lot of pros. The only con is it's going to tell on you if you're an aggressive driver who thinks speed limit signs are just suggestions.
Better buy a bicycle.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

You won't need the Progressive data thingy when they can just download what they want from your EDR after an accident. It has a lot of pros. The only con is it's going to tell on you if you're an aggressive driver who thinks speed limit signs are just suggestions.
Better buy a bicycle.

I don't think they'll wait for an accident. I'm thinking that thing will phone home if you go faster than 70 mph or take a turn too fast. Next time you check your email: "DING! Your insurance premiums have increased due to your recent driving activity. Slow it down, bucko!"