Stand your ground laws...

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The problem with stand your ground is many feel they can stand up and see what happens.

Some may feel that way, but legallly that's simply not the case is my understanding. If someone feels they can stand up and see what happens, then they are either grossly misinformed or poorly trained.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Some may feel that way, but legallly that's simply not the case is my understanding. If someone feels they can stand up and see what happens, then they are either grossly misinformed or poorly trained.

Well, looking at the law it's fuzzy, but legally, you're allowed to stand your ground anywhere you're allowed in public. The fact is, if someone is clearly gonna start something, you have the right to stand there and see what happens, rather than call the police. I'm not even saying I disagree with it.

Fact is, I doubt 99% of the people know the laws or sub laws and idiots will act like idiots and smart people walk away. The problem is, there is a percentage of people that know this law, vigilante types that use it and kill when they could've walked away. Like most things, 1% muck it up for the rest of us.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The problem is, there is a percentage of people that know this law, vigilante types that use it and kill when they could've walked away. Like most things, 1% muck it up for the rest of us.

Please provide sources for the above claim that there are people out there that use the law simply to engage in vigilante activities...

Here is the problem with this line of thinking....

Like most things, 1% muck it up for the rest of us.

That makes it out like the person defending themselves - legally mind you - are somehow the bad guys. Thing is - it is those that choose to commit crime that "muck it up" and make self defense laws necessary to start with. Attempting to criminalize the victim is not the way we solve the problem.

I notice that no one seems to want to touch the Kennisaw, Ga. crime data... The proof is right there - an armed community suffers less crime than an unarmed one. Look at where gun control has been steadily enacted in stronger and stronger ways - violent crime increases. Chicago anyone? When you take away the ability of the citizen to protect him/herself - you make them more likely to be a victim.

Decreasing "stand your ground" and Castle Doctrine laws only remove that self-defense right.

Why is it that no one who is for removing guns from society is willing to put a "This is a gun free zone" in their yard? Is it because it makes them a target?