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Old 06-07-13, 10:13 AM   #1
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So how does anything get done on a national level in a state of no government?
I asked him the same thing several months ago and received a convoluted mixture of town councils, corporate bounty killers and building your own railroad in return. In short, neither Skybird nor Hoppe have any answer to that. Conversely, the whole theory behind replacing western democracy with an anarcho-capitalist scheme seems to be that the blocks will magically arrange themselves in perfect fashion once we knock over the current tower, as though shouting "privatization" will serve as the magic word to crack the door of Utopia.
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Old 06-07-13, 10:59 AM   #2
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I asked him the same thing several months ago and received a convoluted mixture of town councils, corporate bounty killers and building your own railroad in return. In short, neither Skybird nor Hoppe have any answer to that. Conversely, the whole theory behind replacing western democracy with an anarcho-capitalist scheme seems to be that the blocks will magically arrange themselves in perfect fashion once we knock over the current tower, as though shouting "privatization" will serve as the magic word to crack the door of Utopia.
So, basically, nationstates as a whole would cease to exist, becoming instead a massive series of states at a town or village level. A survivalists wet dream perhaps, but about as practical as a cheese sword and it would essentially last about a year (if that) before a group of towns banded together to form a small nation to pool their resources and conquer other towns. You see, we've been there before and it didn't work then either, that's how nations were formed, doesn't anyone play civilization anymore?

This isn't directed at you, Takeda, by the way, I suspect that you know this anyway, but it's in response to your response...if that makes sense.
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Old 06-07-13, 11:16 AM   #3
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So, basically, nationstates as a whole would cease to exist, becoming instead a massive series of states at a town or village level. A survivalists wet dream perhaps, but about as practical as a cheese sword and it would essentially last about a year (if that) before a group of towns banded together to form a small nation to pool their resources and conquer other towns. You see, we've been there before and it didn't work then either, that's how nations were formed, doesn't anyone play civilization anymore?

This isn't directed at you, Takeda, by the way, I suspect that you know this anyway, but it's in response to your response...if that makes sense.
Basically, yeah, that is the fly in the ointment. Communities "must be kept as small as possible", but without a regulatory body to keep this from happening, what will stop a group of little states from forming a super state and absorbing their neighbors again?
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Old 06-07-13, 11:35 AM   #4
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Nothing like witty quotes....
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Old 06-07-13, 11:59 AM   #5
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And that was nothing like a witty quote.

Actually it was quite good. I just couldn't resist the old joke.
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Basically, yeah, that is the fly in the ointment. Communities "must be kept as small as possible", but without a regulatory body to keep this from happening, what will stop a group of little states from forming a super state and absorbing their neighbors again?
And conversely, if you create that regulatory body you have to give it the power to make it stick, therefore creating the very superstate you were trying to avoid, and so on...
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