Barack Obama defends 'just war' using drones

[garren]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Interesting chunk of the speech that I found to be the central decision-making problem at work here.



It's a real no-good-option situation, made worse by the weird fact that people seem to have a different response to the word "drone" than "airstrike".

QFT

[Catfish]

Interesting that just of all those criticize Obama, who would have supported any right-wing hawk president doing the very same.

As asked before:
Would a republican president not have used drones, like they were used recently ?

The weapons industry along with some advisors and those 'special' services must be laughing hard, that just of all a democrat did what they intended to do anyway, and who now is being blamed for all, and by all.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Interesting that just of all those criticize Obama, who would have supported any right-wing hawk president doing the very same.

As asked before:
Would a republican president not have used drones, like they were used recently ?

The weapons industry along with some advisors and those 'special' services must be laughing hard, that just of all a democrat did what they intended to do anyway, and who now is being blamed for all, and by all.

My thoughts exactly. Mr. Redline is kind of a vacuum - but he is not guilty of just everything.

Originally Posted by Skybird

On people thinking that just replacing this politicians for another one - this time the right one, or replacing that party at the helm with a different one, the correct one: as long as this thinking is there, I know that there is not the smallest amount of hope. Politicians and parties must step aside, or they must be kicked aside. What the discussion compares to is a reasoning on whether it is better to have Malaria spread by black or grey mosquitos.

[Gerald]

Drones would I use on the sea, in order to pre-see weather changes instead of having a Doppler radar.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Would a republican president not have used drones, like they were used recently ?

I'd say probably not given the storm of criticism that would have unleashed upon him. My question is why do folks ignore a real Democrat example of this in favor of fictional Republican what-if?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

I'd say probably not given the storm of criticism that would have unleashed upon him. My question is why do folks ignore a real Democrat example of this in favor of fictional Republican what-if?

I don't think anyone is ignoring this, hence this thread discussion.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

I'd say probably not given the storm of criticism that would have unleashed upon him. My question is why do folks ignore a real Democrat example of this in favor of fictional Republican what-if?

I just say that i would understand the republicans criticizing the health care system, or any other management change that 'violates' their point of view or political stance, but republicans bashing Obama for keeping up Guantanamo and using drones seems a bit hypocritical.
And yes, i am very disappointed of him. I know the factions block each other in alomost everything, it seems party politics are more important than the wellbeing of the country.
Maybe we agree principally, if for other reasons

Platapus - what you said.

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

P.S. i returned to put this formula at the end of my posts, because Abraham once said he liked it. I just remembered him. RIP

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I don't think anyone is ignoring this, hence this thread discussion.

Well it just seems to me that the Lefts perpetual answer to their sides mistakes or malfeasance is to justify or excuse it by pointing out past republican transgressions, or in this case their potential for committing transgressions.

That's like trying to justify murdering your neighbor because someone else murdered their neighbor years ago.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

Well it just seems to me that the Lefts perpetual answer to their sides mistakes or malfeasance is to justify or excuse it by pointing out past republican transgressions, or in this case their potential for committing transgressions.

That's like trying to justify murdering your neighbor because someone else murdered their neighbor years ago.

I believe it is widely accepted that both sides are guilty of committing Tu quoque fallacies in their arguments when it serves them best. I can't recall anyone on this board ever claiming that only one "side" does it.

It would be an impossible claim to support in any case.

[mookiemookie]

It's not a justification. It's pointing out the hypocrisy.

"IOKIYAR" and all that.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's not a justification. It's pointing out the hypocrisy.

"IOKIYAR" and all that.

Except that Dems have been using this dodge for the past 5 years. Ain't it about time you started taking at least some responsibility for your own peoples actions?