The twenty dollar Big Mac

[HundertzehnGustav]

one of the reasons i do not go there any more.
Vote wioth your wallet, and the bottom line is for e i rather eat something different, served(prepared, transported...) by people that get a proper pay.

[Feuer Frei!]

Well, unfortunately that will not solve the issue at hand though.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Well, unfortunately that will not solve the issue at hand though.

What is the issue? It is a minimum wage job and offered as such. A potential candidate for the position can accept or decline.

[Feuer Frei!]

The issue? It's quiete clear what the issue is. A request for a pay increase.
A perfectly just and reasonable request.
What is also an issue is that some people think these are 'special snowflakes' who should maybe just put up and shut up and deal with the crappy minimum wage, or, if they don't like it, get a haircut and get a real job.
So, there is 2 issues here i think.

[AVGWarhawk]

I still do not see a issue. How is asking for a raise a just and reasonable request? Hair and metal hanging out of employees noses, eyebrows and lips mean very little these day. I see it all the time.

[HundertzehnGustav]

True that.
If you have a qualification, then McDo and co are not for you.
If you do NOT have a qualification, these places are for you.

No matter what mcDo claims "management " "mcdonalds university" "individual education" and stuff...
A harsh look at things is:
They be flippin burgers.

I would recommend it to students and kids between 16 and 19.

Its long hours of fast, nervous activity, and a thousand stupid customers a day.
But it is among the lowest level of restauration, and when signing up for it, you have to know it must be a temporary measure.

Like living on Fast Food alone is unhealthy, living off a fast food Pay will get you equally washed down the drain.

Do not eat there, do only work there if you do not depend on the job to pay your bills and life.

fast food can not be a way of life.

[August]

I think the point is that McDonalds type jobs are poor replacements for the high paying manufacturing jobs that have gone overseas.

When I was a youngster you either went to college (if you could afford it and had the smarts for it) or you went down to the local factory and applied for a job that you could hold onto for your entire working life without having to learn all that much or really compete to get. One that paid enough to put your kids through college. Perfect for the HS graduate with no great passion for a particular line of work.

But those days are gone now and all that is left for those folks, and there are many, many of them, is low paying service sector jobs that don't offer a living wage.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

I think the point is that McDonalds type jobs are poor replacements for the high paying manufacturing jobs that have gone overseas.

Point taken. The manufacturer moved overseas for what reason?

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Point taken. The manufacturer moved overseas for what reason?

Because the federal government turned the business environment into a red tape mine field? Well, that and employees expecting a living wage. The gall of some people!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Because the federal government turned the business environment into a red tape mine field? Well, that and employees expecting a living wage. The gall of some people!

Can we attribute some of this to say...unions? A living wage? What constitutes a living wage? Do all employers offer living wage? If someone expects a living wage perhaps working towards one is the suggested? I used my gall.