How do you escort a SAG with a sub?

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Originally Posted by MarkShot

(2) I have to get sufficiently out in front of the SAG that I can take out an enemy sub before he launches weapons. Given all the noise the SAG (prop and active sonar) is making, I figure they must be identifiable at 30nmi or so. The problem is how do I get out in front of them fast and not turn myself into a target? I am going to need to sprints at 20+ kts or better. During those sprints I will be noisy and blind. I am certain that coming out of one of those sprints I will hear a TIW. (Of course, that may be a good way of smoking out a sub; if I survive - sort of an inverse recon by fire.)

I have an issue with this as well. My belief, from what I've read and what seems logical, is that sub "escorts" actually operate far ahead of a SAG to give them time to prosecute an attack on a potential contact without its escorts overrunning its protection. This sources says hundreads of km ahead of the CVG http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ip/ssn-688.htm

I've also read that their are rules and zones for "combined" surface/sub groups where the surface groups let the subs do all the ASW in a certain perimeter and only do their own ASW within a certain range to keep friendly fire risk as low as can be expected.

My impression is that too many mission designer put ther sub "escorts" way too close to the SAG they are escorting.

In this particular case the SAG is moving at 10kts in deep water.

Its also my understanding that if a SAG is worried about enemy subs, then speeding up is tatic that's crucial.... speed is life. Otherwise, for what reason is the SAG purposely moving that slowly?