[REL] Type II Interior 3

Wasn't more work for you to remove the CO's bunk rather than just keep it there across from the stove? I think in stock the CO's bunk is across from the stove, right in the command room if I'm correct....

Good work!

[postalbyke]

Yes, but it seemed that the CO's rack was immediately adjacent to the cooking area/passageway aft. In the SH3 model, the CO had a small room in that area, which would interfere with the tank outboard his rack. I actually skipped making the kitchen more detailed, too, as it should have a small deep sink right next to the stove, and I don't think the stove is supposed to be a large four-burner affair.
If you look at the Vesikko interior, there's even less evidence of the CO's rack and the stove. I really wish someone would just walk through and take pictures of every square foot instead of the inside of an electric motor, or the valve arrangement on the diesels.

Originally Posted by postalbyke

Yes, but it seemed that the CO's rack was immediately adjacent to the cooking area/passageway aft. In the SH3 model, the CO had a small room in that area, which would interfere with the tank outboard his rack. I actually skipped making the kitchen more detailed, too, as it should have a small deep sink right next to the stove, and I don't think the stove is supposed to be a large four-burner affair.
If you look at the Vesikko interior, there's even less evidence of the CO's rack and the stove. I really wish someone would just walk through and take pictures of every square foot instead of the inside of an electric motor, or the valve arrangement on the diesels.

In the diagram it seems to me the bunk is across from the cooking area, across the isle. Or there are two bunks, one adjacent to the cooking stove and one across the isle.

Either way, you are correct about the pictures. Are there any surviving Type 2's?

Shouldn't be that difficult to convince a museum volunteer to snap some pictures and email them to one of us.... Just need to find a sub and some contact info...

Ok, lets do some digging. The plans tell something different so lets get to the bottom of this.

Here is some 360 photos of Vesikko. http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.ajomaa/Panorama_2.html

You probably have already seen this...

It looks like the captains bunk may have been next to the fore bunks in the torpedo room, just with a curtain for privacy as suggested here: http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.ajomaa/P..._2_files/4.swf

It's important to keep the bunk because it simulates the captain sleeping in the game and its a bit of roleplaying.

It seems there are no bunks in the command room or next to the stove. And there are only two helm steering wheels? I don't remember if your mod had any, but the stock has 3. Why the kitchen area was so small must be because of the ballast tanks? or there are oxygen tanks there, as seen in the pictures, and which may look like bunks in the type 2 plans.

[postalbyke]

The two wheels on the stbd side are the bow and stern dive planes.
The helm is actually in the navigator's nook (tight quarters for the nav and the on-watch helm)

There may be compressed air tanks in the control room, but the large outboard spaces missing there are the midships diving ballast tank. I've got a tank schematic here somewhere...

http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/pl...lan_100dpi.jpg

This is the internal tank arrangement, and there's another (I think on that site) with the same paper and ink that shows hull details for dry-dock and external repair purposes.

I had a similar thought about the CO's rack, but I felt there was a lot of unused space on the port side aft of the radio room, and the schematics do seem to indicate *something* should go there. Also, the Vesikko can't be considered to be a 100% model for the type IIa, as it was a prototype and had different surfaced and submerged characteristics (among other things).