Ethical eating

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That largely depends on the type, method of preparation and quantity consumed. Red meats do have a connection with cancer and Type II diabetes as well as the obvious cardiovasular disease connection. Sausage and processed meats also have similar connections. It is very important not to fall into the 'I know a guy' syndrome. After all, we know of those pack-a-day smokers that never got cancer. That doesn't make smoking a good idea.

everything - even the oxygen you breathe - kills you.

i will live my life as i chose as i think all people should live their lives as they choose.

i think too many people push their lifestyle.

I will eat red meat, drink liquor, smoke cigars and perform cunnilingus.

everyone else can do as they please.

i think the world worries too much honestly

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

everything - even the oxygen you breathe - kills you.

i will live my life as i chose as i think all people should live their lives as they choose.

i think too many people push their lifestyle.

I will eat red meat, drink liquor, smoke cigars and perform cunnilingus.

everyone else can do as they please.

i think the world worries to much honestly

And that's fine, as it is your choice, but that was not your argument. You said it was healthy, hence my problem with the statement. Your choices are your choices, but don't pass them off as promoting health in an attempt to justify them, occasionally to others but mostly to oneself.

[GoldenRivet]

meat is part of a balanced healthy diet

[Takeda Shingen]

Depends on type, preparation and quantity.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Depends on type, preparation and quantity.

agreed.

bacon 5 times a day deep fried in lard = bad


steak once or twice a week grilled = not bad

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

agreed.

bacon 5 times a day deep fried in lard = bad


steak once or twice a week grilled = not bad

I would question any red meat on the basis of health, and the studies back that up, but it is your heart and your colon. You'd be better off with some grilled salmon

Honestly as I get older and older the less enthused I am about eating any meat, I already outright don't eat bird or pig meat and haven't since I was a kid. (Watching a pig slowly die as a young lad does not leave you unscathed... pigs don't die quietly.....) Even beef, the little I actually eat I feel like I should lessen my use of.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

agreed.

bacon 5 times a day deep fried in lard = bad


steak once or twice a week grilled = not bad

One should also factor into the equation the potential effects of chemicals within the body of the animal being eaten. Furthermore there's the hormones to consider as well, both factors can increase the unhealthiness of the meat being consumed, however it's usually such a trace amount that no real effects are noticeable unless vast quantities are consumed.
The problem lies in the feed stocks that most cattle are receiving these days, it's a pile of rubbish, full of chemicals to increase the shelf life and growth hormones to increase the bulk of the animal. It's been that way since the industrial revolution, although admittedly there are laws in place to help reduce the amount of rubbish going into the food for farm animals, at least there is in Europe and the UK anyway, since the whole BSE crisis of the 1990s.
Still, even with that knowledge, I eat meat, because I enjoy it. I think the only non-meat food that I enjoy as much as meat is pasta and noodles.

Oh, and strangely for a Brit, I'm not that keen on fish and chips...would much rather have sausage and chips.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

everything -

I will eat red meat, drink liquor, smoke cigars and perform cunnilingus.

I've heard versions of it, but that has a ring to it, writing it down..


My Granpma loved to cook and eat, but never got fat. Everything she cooked had Fatback in it, she smoked, chew snuff, dranks some. About 80 she got sick, can't recall, but she dediced it was time to live healthy. She rode a bike 5 miles a day til about 95, lived past 100. She often said her good health came from the fact she ate from her own garden most her life, including making her own tobacco. Course my Grandpa died in his late 60's living the same lifestyle, but died of black lung.

When Grandpa died, she finally moved from the mountains in with my Aunt and hated food from the store, blamed it for making her sick and soon had the back yard plowed for a garden and she wouldn't eat store meat.

This is her from the 60's, guess she died in ...98. I do think she had great genes, but she always said "that store bought food will kill yuins"

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

"that store bought food will kill yuins"

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I would think that she is correct on some level.