Dock a ship temporarily [Mission Editor] ?

01-05-13, 02:09 AM

try asking here in this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=190953

or start a new thread asking about "how mission triggers work"

Trevally. · 01-05-13, 05:29 AM

Here is a mission where a DD is docked for 1 hour.
It is the replaced by another DD (same) that will goto a waypoint.
Your uboat is just off watching:-

[Mission]
IsVisible=true
MissionType=0
MissionDataType=0
MultiMissionType=0
IsTutorial=false
Year=1941
Month=5
Day=18
Hour=10
Minute=0
CurrentYear=1941
CurrentMonth=5
CurrentDay=18
CurrentHour=10
CurrentMinute=0
GroupMissionStartDelay=0
IconIndex=0
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=5.000000
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=5
SeaType=0
ActivationAchievements=

[Unit 1]
Name=_GE DD Type 34#1
Class=DDType34
Type=4
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
CfgDate=19410501
MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true
DockedShip=true
IsEscort=false
GameEntryDate=19380101
GameEntryTime=0
GameExitDate=19410518
GameExitTime=1059
EvolveFromEntryDate=false
Long=-2410000.000000
Lat=6304000.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=0.000000
Speed=0.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
AvailStartDate=19380101
AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=false
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

[Unit 2]
Name=_GE DD Type 34#2
Class=DDType34
Type=4
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
CfgDate=19410501
MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true
DockedShip=false
IsEscort=false
GameEntryDate=19410518
GameEntryTime=1100
GameExitDate=19451231
GameExitTime=0
EvolveFromEntryDate=false
Long=-2409982.000000
Lat=6304000.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=0.000000
Speed=5.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
AvailStartDate=19380101
AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=false
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

[Unit 2.Waypoint 1]
Speed=5.000000
Radius=0.000000
Loop=-1
LoopProbability=100
Long=-2410304.000000
Lat=6306734.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false

[Unit 3]
Name=_Type VIIC#1
Class=SSTypeVIIC
Type=200
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=1
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
CfgDate=19410501
MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false
DockedShip=false
IsEscort=false
GameEntryDate=19410301
GameEntryTime=0
GameExitDate=19451231
GameExitTime=0
EvolveFromEntryDate=false
Long=-2409519.000000
Lat=6303995.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=270.000000
Speed=0.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
AvailStartDate=19380101
AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=true
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

[EditorParams]
InitLongOff=0.000000
InitLatOff=0.000000
ZoomIndex=0
Prefix=

uboot48 · 01-05-13, 07:06 PM

Trevally, miles of thanks !
I am coping your "code" right now with high hopes.

uboot48 · 01-05-13, 10:42 PM

Trevally,
Unit 1 stays where begins, and Unit 2 appears all of a sudden as seen on screenshot. We have no movement to waypoint 1.
I guess the ENGINE is very confused about our "ghost trick"
I still playing with every possible combination, but no success ...

Trevally. · 01-06-13, 02:44 AM

You could try changing unit 1 to not docked, but moving very slow to a very close waypoint. This can then set to delete at end of waypoint.

Try moving unit 2s waypoint to further away.

uboot48 · 01-06-13, 06:22 AM

Perhaps it's possible to do it, but in practice it is a nightmare.
I have been moving longitude of way-point of unit 1 little by little and could not make it. I had to reload mission 40 times. ( I would be tired to do 100 )
In other words I could not achieve any synchronization.
Anyway UNIT 2 behaves ODD, regardless of it's way-point 1 location.
I guess it's behavior is driven by UNIT 1.

What interesting is that GameExitDate and GameExitTime have no effect.
This trick could be easily implemented if those 2 parameters could trigger the behavior.
I made another simple play with just one ship (Bismarck), that suppose to exit in 5 min.
I manipulated all other factors ( DockedShip, DeleteOnLastWaypoint, etc...) in every possible combination and it did NOT work.
I would say is a BUG.
Any comment on this please.

Trevally. · 01-06-13, 06:51 AM

Delete on last waypoint does work - I have used it many times.
Also delete by date works - not tried by time, perhaps your uboat is too close to the deleting ones - try moving further away.

Just what is it you are trying to do?
Why don't you go ahead and make your mission - then parts that dont work can be looked at.
ME2 can do most things - it is a powerful editor for missions and campaignwork

01-06-13, 02:44 AM	#5
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	You could try changing unit 1 to not docked, but moving very slow to a very close waypoint. This can then set to delete at end of waypoint. Try moving unit 2s waypoint to further away. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

01-06-13, 06:51 AM	#7
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Delete on last waypoint does work - I have used it many times. Also delete by date works - not tried by time, perhaps your uboat is too close to the deleting ones - try moving further away. Just what is it you are trying to do? Why don't you go ahead and make your mission - then parts that dont work can be looked at. ME2 can do most things - it is a powerful editor for missions and campaignwork __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

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01-05-13, 02:09 AM	#1
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	try asking here in this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=190953 or start a new thread asking about "how mission triggers work"

01-05-13, 05:29 AM	#2
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Here is a mission where a DD is docked for 1 hour. It is the replaced by another DD (same) that will goto a waypoint. Your uboat is just off watching:- [Mission] IsVisible=true MissionType=0 MissionDataType=0 MultiMissionType=0 IsTutorial=false Year=1941 Month=5 Day=18 Hour=10 Minute=0 CurrentYear=1941 CurrentMonth=5 CurrentDay=18 CurrentHour=10 CurrentMinute=0 GroupMissionStartDelay=0 IconIndex=0 Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=0 CloudsRand=0 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=5.000000 WindRand=0 WeatherRndInterval=5 SeaType=0 ActivationAchievements= [Unit 1] Name=_GE DD Type 34#1 Class=DDType34 Type=4 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=0 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true DockedShip=true IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19380101 GameEntryTime=0 GameExitDate=19410518 GameExitTime=1059 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2410000.000000 Lat=6304000.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=0.000000 Speed=0.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=false CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [Unit 2] Name=_GE DD Type 34#2 Class=DDType34 Type=4 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=0 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true DockedShip=false IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19410518 GameEntryTime=1100 GameExitDate=19451231 GameExitTime=0 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2409982.000000 Lat=6304000.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=0.000000 Speed=5.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=false CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [Unit 2.Waypoint 1] Speed=5.000000 Radius=0.000000 Loop=-1 LoopProbability=100 Long=-2410304.000000 Lat=6306734.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false [Unit 3] Name=_Type VIIC#1 Class=SSTypeVIIC Type=200 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=1 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false DockedShip=false IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19410301 GameEntryTime=0 GameExitDate=19451231 GameExitTime=0 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2409519.000000 Lat=6303995.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=270.000000 Speed=0.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=true CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [EditorParams] InitLongOff=0.000000 InitLatOff=0.000000 ZoomIndex=0 Prefix= __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

01-05-13, 07:06 PM	#3
uboot48 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 12 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Trevally, miles of thanks ! I am coping your "code" right now with high hopes.

01-05-13, 10:42 PM	#4
uboot48 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 12 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Trevally, Unit 1 stays where begins, and Unit 2 appears all of a sudden as seen on screenshot. We have no movement to waypoint 1. I guess the ENGINE is very confused about our "ghost trick" I still playing with every possible combination, but no success ...

01-06-13, 06:22 AM	#6
uboot48 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 12 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Perhaps it's possible to do it, but in practice it is a nightmare. I have been moving longitude of way-point of unit 1 little by little and could not make it. I had to reload mission 40 times. ( I would be tired to do 100 ) In other words I could not achieve any synchronization. Anyway UNIT 2 behaves ODD, regardless of it's way-point 1 location. I guess it's behavior is driven by UNIT 1. What interesting is that GameExitDate and GameExitTime have no effect. This trick could be easily implemented if those 2 parameters could trigger the behavior. I made another simple play with just one ship (Bismarck), that suppose to exit in 5 min. I manipulated all other factors ( DockedShip, DeleteOnLastWaypoint, etc...) in every possible combination and it did NOT work. I would say is a BUG. Any comment on this please.