Should assault rifles be banned in the US?

[troopie]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I don't think now is the right time, but it would be interesting to see the North American/European/Australasian split for this type of question.

I don't really wanna encourage this thread with a post,...But!.. I gotta pull ya up HB! I'm pretty sure the term 'Australasia' went out in the nineties,...along with Keating...

Proximity aside, Aus. has pretty muh zero cultural/political commons with SE Asia. Any responses from Aus./Asia would be poles apart!

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by troopie

I don't really wanna encourage this thread with a post,...But!.. I gotta pull ya up HB! I'm pretty sure the term 'Australasia' went out in the nineties,...along with Keating...

Proximity aside, Aus. has pretty muh zero cultural/political commons with SE Asia. Any responses from Aus./Asia would be poles apart!

Please accept my '90s-style' apology. It was only because I couldn't be bothered to type NZ so I used an all encompassing name.

Honestly.

[troopie]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Please accept my '90s-style' apology. It was only because I couldn't be bothered to type NZ so I used an all encompassing name.

Honestly.

Ha Ha. You just made my evening! Cheers HB! PM Keating was hell-bent on sucking up to Asia in the 90's and used the term prolifically, albeit with little effect (allthough included, I don't think our trans-tasmin brothers were oft' intended as the descriptors!).

I suspect there may be a few Kiwi's with their noses out of joint right now!

Edit: Apology graciously accepted! In a nineties kinda way of course!

[August]

Gee the foreigners think we should be disarmed. My my.

Well why don't you try to come and get them from us? We'll be waiting for you.

Gee the foreigners think we should be disarmed. My my.

Well why don't you try to come and get them from us? We'll be waiting for you.

On a scale of patheticness that really breaks the meter.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

On a scale of patheticness that really breaks the meter.

I cannot speak for August myself. But I can speak on how I construed his comment.

Foreigners cannot understand American gun culture, or find us barbaric for clinging to it. It is like how outlanders cannot fully understand American racism, as they do not have the experiences we have with it.

Blacks used to have separate water fountains up until the late 60s. Alot of folks are still resisting this change.

It is what makes up our fabric, good or bad.

Guns is an American tradition.

I will say this, rural areas are very liberal with guns, come to Jersey and see the hoops I had to navigate and money I had to pay, red tape and bull-stuff to own my guns.

My cousin in Alabama can just walk into a walmart.

(edit: I own a so called "assault rifle (though I have no plans of assaulting anybody, I hate that term), because it is goddam fun to shoot, I murder paper targets with it, and giggle like a child as I do it. )

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I cannot speak for August myself. But I can speak on how I construed his comment.

Foreigners cannot understand American gun culture, or find us barbaric for clinging to it. It is like how outlanders cannot fully understand American racism, as they do not have the experiences we have with it.

Blacks used to have separate water fountains up until the late 60s. Alot of folks are still resisting this change.

It is what makes up our fabric, good or bad.

Guns is an American tradition.

I will say this, rural areas are very liberal with guns, come to Jersey and see the hoops I had to navigate and money I had to pay, red tape and bull-stuff to own my guns.

My cousin in Alabama can just walk into a walmart.

(edit: I own a so called "assault rifle (though I have no plans of assaulting anybody, I hate that term), because it is goddam fun to shoot, I murder paper targets with it, and giggle like a child as I do it. )

Yeah, but this is not just a national, but an international forum. As such, you had better get used to reading the opinions of people from other parts of the world. It is their right to give those opinions, whether you like it or not. This whole 'beat it, outlander' thing is just silly.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Foreigners cannot understand American gun culture, or find us barbaric for clinging to it. It is like how outlanders cannot fully understand American racism, as they do not have the experiences we have with it.

That's not really true. You make some American friends, go visit America, shoot some guns with decent, responsible people. That's what I did, and it certainly gave me a sense of perspective and qualified my opinion on gun culture significantly.

As Takeda said, everyone's entitled to an opinion, and even a foreigner's opinion can be well-informed and legitimate. Now, I agree that some opinions are misinformed, but saying that "you're an outsider so your opinion doesn't matter" is stupid. Any civil, educated, critical person can have a rational opinion on anything. To say that they can't is essentially assigning mystical value to things that actually have none. There is nothing mystical about being American, and there is nothing mystical about gun culture or constitutional values. Promoting mystical views of these things only deepens the cultural misunderstanding.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

They should. All you need to defend yourself is a handgun. If your hand's shaking, you obviously didn't pass your gun test.

Exactly how much firearms experience do you have? Do you have the slightest clue whay you're talking about?

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

3. nobody uses an assault rifle for home defense as it is an incredibly poor choice for close quarters shooting in a situation where the avoidance of collateral damage is obviously critical

I once had a friend who asked it I would use my 0ught-three Springfield on an intruder. I replied no, that's what the .45 was for. The .30-06 round would go through the burglar, through the wall, through my roommate, through the other wall and possible across the street and through my neighbor.

4. I have always tried to make it a point not to participate in polls with loaded poll choices.

Not me. I love rigged polls. I voted no, because as a stupid beknighted American (and a traditional old fart to boot) I obviously believe that "spray and pray" is the only way to go!

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

So they're pretty much useless unless you wanted to murder some kindergarten kids.

Again, what experience in shooting, or even life, do you speak from.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Guess when you don't know what you're talking about even a muzzle loader is an assault rifle.

As was my Springfield, back in 1917.

Personally I think this is a really inappropriate and disrespectful time to have this discussion and I don't think I'll participate beyond this post.

I disagree. Personally, I think anytime is appropriate to have a stupid and useless discussion based on a stupid and useless poll.

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

I voted 'No' as protest for rigged poll. I will not waste time commenting this thread unless someone post something so ridiculous I can't resist urge.

Yep. I'm hoping my posts will live down to your standards.

Originally Posted by Hottentot

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Have a nice time of the day.

Candidate for post of the year! Well, maybe next year.

Originally Posted by August

Well why don't you try to come and get them from us? We'll be waiting for you.

Arrogant, disrespectful...and funny as hell!

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Candidate for post of the year! Well, maybe next year.

But, but, but...if the world is going to end in 2012, then I'll never get one of those fancy "Best of Subsim" badges.

Yeah, but this is not just a national, but an international forum.

But it goes even further on the level of patheticness than that, as even domesticly it is an issue so attempting to write it off with nonsense about "foriegners" just doesn't wash
All August did was a really bad impression of Charlton Heston when he stood at the NRA podium and made a complete dick of himself.

Foreigners cannot understand American gun culture, or find us barbaric for clinging to it.

Now you are making no sense at all Soopa, think about it