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Old 12-02-12, 12:02 PM   #1
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Well, if Im not mistaken in addition to revenue, Israel already provides, the doctors, medical facilities, electrical power and potable water services to these pin heads. The only border closed is the seaside and for good reason. Land borders are and always have been open to supply what these pinheads cannot provide for themselves.

I suppose though if these pin head want statehood then just be sure to let them have all that comes with it. They will soon find out they wont have time to educate their children how to through hand grenades at Israelis but rather actually have to train professionals to run basic services to their citizens instead.
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Well, if Im not mistaken in addition to revenue, Israel already provides, the doctors, medical facilities, electrical power and potable water services to these pin heads. The only border closed is the seaside and for good reason. Land borders are and always have been open to supply what these pinheads cannot provide for themselves.
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Old 12-02-12, 04:46 PM   #3
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Well, if Im not mistaken in addition to revenue, Israel already provides, the doctors, medical facilities, electrical power and potable water services to these pin heads. The only border closed is the seaside and for good reason. Land borders are and always have been open to supply what these pinheads cannot provide for themselves.
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Old 12-02-12, 04:52 PM   #4
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So what is the true situation?
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Old 12-02-12, 05:10 PM   #5
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So what is the true situation?
Borders are closed indeed, but Israel lets through items and deliveries considered to be vital for the population's survival. Palestinians try to define many classes of goods as "vital" that could also serve a military purpose - the most prominent example concrete, which can be used to build a private house - or a reinforced HQ post under a school, or a bunker. That's why Israel limits the quantity of this allowed in.

However, Israel insists of controlling everything being send for the Palestinians, they do not let anything in uncontrolled. Which is reasonable.

The naval blockade also is enforced, every freighter heading for Gaza gets redirected to an Israeli harbour, controlled there, and then the items might or might not be delivered via street transport.

Smuggling is a constant business under the Egyptian border. With most of the Sinai being lost for Egypt's control (maybe even intentionally, considering the new regime in Cairo), it now is in hands of terrorists and smugglers alike.

Fact is that you can buy every luxury good you can imagine in Gaza, if you have the money. Many Palestinians make a fortune by abusing their own people.

On the naval blockade, it is to be reminded of that by international law the blockade as explained and established by Israel is valid and is in conformity with international laws regulating the establishing of such a blockade. The same law fundament enforces Israel to not accept a single exception passing through, because international law says the moment a single ship breaks the blockade or is allowed though, the whole blockade has become invalid.
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Old 12-02-12, 05:33 PM   #6
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So what is the true situation?
The true situation is someone made a pinheaded comment while trying to refer to others as pinheads

The revenue in question Israel "provides" is actually Palestinian taxes so its Palestinian money not Israels.
Doctors and medical services are provided from a wide range of sources, though Israel is obliged to do so in zone C
Electrical power is both imported and domestic, though Israel is obliged to do so in zone C
Water? Israel controls over 3/4 of all water sources in the occupied west bank, so it generously supplies Palestinians with some of the Palestinians own water.
Borders? All zone C, thats how Israel is the one collecting the trade tax as it controls all borders.
Seaside? He must mean the Dead Sea as the West Bank is somewhat landlocked But thats also zone C so also Israeli controlled.

So in a nutshell he managed to get just about everything in his post wrong, which is quite pinheaded isn't it.

Now I suppose they could cut back on their legal obligation to run the Palestinians services, after all their occupation does mean they have to run as an occpying power the 60+% of the west bank that is still under Israeli direct military and civil rule plus to a lesser extent the 20% that is under just military rule.
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On the naval blockade, it is to be reminded of that by international law the blockade as explained and established by Israel is valid and is in conformity with international laws regulating the establishing of such a blockade. The same law fundament enforces Israel to not accept a single exception passing through, because international law says the moment a single ship breaks the blockade or is allowed though, the whole blockade has become invalid.
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And I heap you in with the rest of the pinheads I speak of you are no different. They are taxed you nit and services are rendered. But if they want statehood then give it too them but give them ALL the responsibility that goes with it pinhead. As I said then maybe JUST MAYBE they will be forced to teach their children a trade other than how to lob rockets and grenades at Israelis. The border may be regulated but they are open how else do you think they get food, water, medicine, electricity? You think they have their own infrastructure?
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And I heap you in with the rest of the pinheads I speak of you are no different. They are taxed you nit and services are rendered. But if they want statehood then give it too them but give them ALL the responsibility that goes with it pinhead. As I said then maybe JUST MAYBE they will be forced to teach their children a trade other than how to lob rockets and grenades at Israelis. The border may be regulated but they are open how else do you think they get food, water, medicine, electricity? You think they have their own infrastructure?
Considering you had managed to get just about everything in your post arseways you really look silly calling anyone a pinhead

Isn't it funny how you make no sense. It isn't often people will go that far out of their way to look silly, but I thank you for you effort
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