French march by tens of thousands against homo "marriages" and adoptation

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by joea

Well, I don't care if gays want to get married, but am not sure I like the idea of homosexuals adopting children. So am I PC or not??

It's called schizophrenia.

Serious, the basic idea behind marriage has been an economic partnership serving as the fundament for raising children. In other words: family founding. Yes, there are kings marrying princesses, and poltrical marriages and all that - but that is not the everday purpose that marriages have served for for 99% of the ordinary people. And yes, there are bad marriages, and families better never have come to existence, and children suffering from alcoholics and tyrants, and wifes being beaten from their thugs of a husband. And still: the general idea why a man and a women came togather and decided to spend their lives togather, roginally was about sharing the workload of a shared place (farm), and ordanizing the educaiton adn caretaking of thechiuldren. Both mother and father to their best and individual (-gender-related) advantages).

It makes little sense to principally try to separate "marriage" from "family/child raising". That many couples do not have children, does not chnage the principle behind the historic roots of the institution.

We have immense dmeograpohic problems in Wetsern societies, too few children. The family gets decosuntructed by modern, left-leanijng and materialistic conceptions, who often also aim at simply egoist motives of the actors: avoiding the responsibility that comes with family, putting job and career, sexual adventuring and freedom to "discover oneself" and such before responsibility. It seems, from a sociological perspective as well as a culture-historic perspective, it does not work too good. Nor has it made people more happy, self-fulfilled, and reasonable. We try to destroy families today. Put children into anonymous institutions at the age of 1 year so that their mothers - a term nor declared to be sexual discriminating - should both enter the workforce pool agfain and should also prove feminist ideology right by makiong career in high posts of the economy where they should at best gain 50% parity with male actors - not caqrting oine mooent for the question whether that really is what women in genersal want. That there are fewerr women in certain fields, and fewer men in other fields, may be owed to the simply fact that men and women have different interests, and set different priorities. But feminists, every woman has to be a female soldiers for the sake of gender ideolgy whiczh says that there are no diffeercnes between girls and boys buit that such diferences in interests and role-finding are totally artifical and transported by culturer and education only. Which has been so often found to be wrong. But when the wrong thing gets repeated often and loud enough, it nevertheless gets mistake for the truth, eventually.

Genderism, destroying the family institution, homo marriage, feminism - it all comes form the same basic mindset, the same ideologic direction. Add to this poltiicians attempts to lure people into submitting themselves into dependency from social nanny-nursing by the state that pays for everything and takes away all responsibility form them to make these well-nursed crowds depend on the parties and vote for them, securing them in power, and you have successfully outlined the basic scheme that explains why things are being pushed over the edge. It is no accident. It is wanted.

Another reason why I have serious doubts about democracy. See the German book recommendation ("Prolokratier") I just gave in the "Notes from Germany" thread. "Notes in German" would now be a better title, maybe, but the thread changed slightly in idea since it began.

[Armistead]

Skybird,

What you're saying let's stay in the dark ages and not progress with culture. The problem with the American family has nothing to do with sexuality. Marriage and relationships have evolved. Still, why not promote marriage for all people? I honestly don't care who loves who.

I realize you would probably like to go back to the day of no civil or equal rights, but it ain't gonna happen,

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Another reason why I have serious doubts about democracy.

Oh stop the drama Skybird, just because you cant get it your way.