Open carry in Oklahoma

Really? Maybe you don't think Brady is serious, but several states have tried.

Name one state that has even proposed attempting to ban all guns.
Even the brady bunch don't do that.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Name one state that has even proposed attempting to ban all guns.

No state legislature has tried to ban all guns, but members have tried to bring it up. Georgia tried to ban most handguns as far back as 1837. This seems to have been more of a racial thing, as one of the provisions was barring any gun ownership to free blacks. That said, DC has tried to ban all handguns, and you always have to worry about what might slip by.

If you think I'm being a reverse alarmist, maybe you should read what gun-control advocates have said on the subject.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcnobody.html

Even the brady bunch don't do that.

Like any political organization, Brady has to put on a public face that doesn't always reflect its real goals. Individual members are a little less subtle.

We'll take one step at a time, and the first is necessarily - given the political realities - very modest. We'll have to start working again to strengthen the law, and then again to strengthen the next law and again and again. Our ultimate goal, total control of handguns, is going to take time. The first problem is to slow down production and sales. Next is to get registration. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and ammunition (with a few exceptions) totally illegal
-Nelson Shields, Handgun Control (later Brady Campaign) Founder

No state legislature has tried to ban all guns

Exactly, and there has never been any serious attempt to do anything even remotely like it which is why the original line was parrot fodder.

Nice link, I would normally reject out of hand anything citing Kleck as he is a bigger idiot than the brady bunch are, but all your link managed to deliver as "evidence" to back up that claim was a single quote from one complete nobody who is appointed to do health programs on cigarettes.

The reason I call Kleck a bigger idiot than the Bradys is that he did a propoganda piece were he falsly claimed two specific countries had banned all guns and somehow proved his theory about it increasing problems by adding in figures from another state entirely which surprisingly had even laxer gun regulations than the other two countries, though to be fair I do understand his need to add a warzone to his fiction to pad out the numbers as his claims were so ludicrous to start with.

Individual members are a little less subtle.

Yet even that quote doesn't back up the claim does it.

[Sailor Steve]

I guess you're right. I'll be turning in my guns tomorrow.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I guess you're right. I'll be turning in my guns tomorrow.

You can ship them to me for proper disposal..

[Sailor Steve]

Actually I was thinking I might send them to her.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Meh. As far as theories go, I prefer this...

[Onkel Neal]

Oh wow, you know what? I realized I forgot, the motorcycle shop where I work part time, it was robbed about 4 months ago. Yeah, a guy was waiting by the back door and when the store closed, one of the two employees opened the back door to take out the trash, and the robber shoved a gun in his face and marched him to the back. There, the robber had the keyholder open the safe and then made both guys lay on the floor. He took the cash, and then ordered them into the front, where he took two $800 helmets and a few other items.

Yes, how odd that this did not occur to me when I made this post and stated how I have not seen any crime or knew of anyone who had directly been involved in this kind of thing. We watched it the next day on the video playback, every bit of it.

I know it sounds pretty cavalier, but it really did not alarm me. I work there frequently and I don't worry about it (shrug).

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Exactly, and there has never been any serious attempt to do anything even remotely like it which is why the original line was parrot fodder.

DC doesn't count? Members of legislatures have proposed bans. Just because it was rejected doesn't mean the threat isn't real.

Nice link, I would normally reject out of hand anything citing Kleck as he is a bigger idiot than the brady bunch are,

Are you saying the quotes from that site are all lies?

Yet even that quote doesn't back up the claim does it.

That one of the founders of HC/Brady said the ultimate goal was exactly that? I've seen Brady people talk, and I am firmly convinced that what they claim on their site is a flat-out lie.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That one of the founders of HC/Brady said the ultimate goal was exactly that? I've seen Brady people talk, and I am firmly convinced that what they claim on their site is a flat-out lie.

I've talked to some of them as well and I have to agree. Total civilian disarmament is their not so secret agenda.

DC doesn't count?

It would count if it had banned all guns or even attempted to, but it hasn't so it doesn't.

Members of legislatures have proposed bans.

Name one.

Just because it was rejected doesn't mean the threat isn't real.

You have to cite the attempt first and make sure it has all the specifics that would ban all guns.

Are you saying the quotes from that site are all lies?

No, I am saying Kleck is a frequently used source but has been known to simply invent crazy "facts", I am also saying that nothing there backs up the claim.

That one of the founders of HC/Brady said the ultimate goal was exactly that?

Look at the quote you posted, it doesn't even say anything like it.
Now if that quote said all guns then you might have a point, if it said all guns without exceptions then you definately would have a point, but it certainly doesn't say that, so all you are left with in that link is that single quote from a nobody in Florida.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It would count if it had banned all guns or even attempted to, but it hasn't so it doesn't.

Sec. 201. Registration Required, (a) Except as otherwise provided
in this act, no ])erson or organization shall within the District receive,
possess, have under his control, transfer, offer for sale, sell, give, or
deliver any destructive device, and no person or organization shall,
within the District possess or have under his or its control any firearm,
unless such person or oi^anization is the holder of a valid registration
certificate for such fireaim. In the case of an organization, a registra-
tration certificate shall be issued (1) only to an organization which
has in its employ one or more commissioned special police officers or
other employees licensed to carry firearms, and which arms sucli
employees witli firearms during such employees duty hours and (2)
only to such organization in its own name and in the name of its
president or the chief executive.

Name one.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...AID=11&Session=

Look at the quote you posted, it doesn't even say anything like it.
Now if that quote said all guns then you might have a point, if it said all guns without exceptions then you definately would have a point, but it certainly doesn't say that, so all you are left with in that link is that single quote from a nobody in Florida.

This quote?

We'll take one step at a time, and the first is necessarily - given the political realities - very modest. We'll have to start working again to strengthen the law, and then again to strengthen the next law and again and again. Our ultimate goal, total control of handguns, is going to take time. The first problem is to slow down production and sales. Next is to get registration. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and ammunition (with a few exceptions) totally illegal.
-Nelson Shields, Handgun Control (later Brady Campaign) Founder

I would say that the founder of HCI was hardly a nobody. His statement reflects accurately what I've heard from other HCI/Brady members.