U.S. Presidential Debates & Election - Page 11

10-17-12, 08:39 AM

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That is debatable. Taxed to death is one thing. Surgically put to death is another.

Not at all since the attempt being made was make an arguement for exemptions based solely on personal fancies

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 08:40 AM

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Not at all since the attempt being made was make an arguement for exemptions based solely on personal fancies

Understood.

Jimbuna · 10-17-12, 09:11 AM

I got the impression Obama was certainly better this tome round and probably edged it but I also thought the moderator helped in, but not on purpose of course

Onkel Neal · 10-17-12, 09:36 AM

Obama came out better than the first debate, but that still doesn't change his horrid economic record of deficits and missing budgets. Of course, each side thinks their man won. I noticed Obama walked away from Romney when things got heated, he seemed to shy away from the confrontation. Romney managed the most quote-worthy remarks, though not in a way he would like, with "binders full of women".

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 09:49 AM

BO had to do better. If it was a repeat performance we would know for sure he is a man not wanting a second term. It is awfully hard for him to run on his record.

Takeda Shingen · 10-17-12, 11:33 AM

You can usually tell by the next morning who had the upper hand in the debate by the level of activity from the opposing side. After the first one the right-wing media outlets were relatively quiet, while those on the left were going bonkers. This time is the opposite. Even here, in the microcosm of SubSim, our resident right-leaning polemicists are out in force today.

Game two goes to Obama. Prior to the Lybia incident, I would say that the foreign policy debate would be a slam dunk for Obama. Not anymore. It's going to be an interesting finish; a whole lot more interesting than I thought it was going to be.

Oberon · 10-17-12, 11:41 AM

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You can usually tell by the next morning who had the upper hand in the debate by the level of activity from the opposing side. After the first one the right-wing media outlets were relatively quiet, while those on the left were going bonkers. This time is the opposite. Even here, in the microcosm of SubSim, our resident right-leaning polemicists are out in force today.

I think the right wingers are out because of the debate moderator. I see more issue with the moderator than what was actually said by the CinC and Romney.

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Game two goes to Obama. Prior to the Lybia incident, I would say that the foreign policy debate would be a slam dunk for Obama. Not anymore. It's going to be an interesting finish; a whole lot more interesting than I thought it was going to be.

Foreign policy was to be Joe Biden's gig. This is how it was sold to the voters in 2008.

Takeda Shingen · 10-17-12, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think the right wingers are out because of the debate moderator. I see more issue with the moderator than what was actually said by the CinC and Romney.

When their candidate does well, it's due to facts and truth. When he doesn't it's because of liberal bias.

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Foreign policy was to be Joe Biden's gig. This is how it was sold to the voters in 2008.

Okay, then we'll have Biden debate both Romney and Ryan on foreign policy for the third debate. Afterwards we can talk more about liberal bias.

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 01:12 PM

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When their candidate does well, it's due to facts and truth. When he doesn't it's because of liberal bias.

Okay, then we'll have Biden debate both Romney and Ryan on foreign policy for the third debate. Afterwards we can talk more about liberal bias.

Sadly, both sides said the truth was a stretch for the CinC and Romney. We lovingly acknowledge Fact Checker these days.

Joe Biden will spend more time laughing, grinning, gawfing and smiling. No use in the debating of such issues.

Bias comes from both sides. Kind of silly really.

Sailor Steve · 10-17-12, 01:32 PM

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I've decided to start a drinking game: I will take a drink whenever either candidate brings up a letter they recieved from, a contact they had with an "ordinary American", or cites the words of a soldier, fireman, policeman or one of their family members, etc. I rather expect to be well on my way to inebiation before the debate is over...

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So, how drunk did you get?

Takeda Shingen · 10-17-12, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Sadly, both sides said the truth was a stretch for the CinC and Romney. We lovingly acknowledge Fact Checker these days.

Joe Biden will spend more time laughing, grinning, gawfing and smiling. No use in the debating of such issues.

Bias comes from both sides. Kind of silly really.

I think it would be a great show. Biden snorting and grinning, Romney changing his stance by the minute, and Ryan nervously downing gallons of water. Let's do it.

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I think it would be a great show. Biden snorting and grinning, Romney changing his stance by the minute, and Ryan nervously downing gallons of water. Let's do it.

Make sure Michele Obama is in the audience so she can clap for things she thinks are wonderful.

Takeda Shingen · 10-17-12, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Make sure Michele Obama is in the audience so she can clap for things she thinks are wonderful.

Afterwards the men can retire to ogle Romney's binders of women.

AVGWarhawk · 10-17-12, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Afterwards the men can retire to ogle Romney's binders of women.

I would like to take a peek as well.

So would Herman Cain.

10-17-12, 09:11 AM	#153
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,437 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I got the impression Obama was certainly better this tome round and probably edged it but I also thought the moderator helped in, but not on purpose of course __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-17-12, 09:36 AM	#154
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,386 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Obama came out better than the first debate, but that still doesn't change his horrid economic record of deficits and missing budgets. Of course, each side thinks their man won. I noticed Obama walked away from Romney when things got heated, he seemed to shy away from the confrontation. Romney managed the most quote-worthy remarks, though not in a way he would like, with "binders full of women". __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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10-17-12, 09:49 AM	#155
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	BO had to do better. If it was a repeat performance we would know for sure he is a man not wanting a second term. It is awfully hard for him to run on his record.

10-17-12, 11:33 AM	#156
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	You can usually tell by the next morning who had the upper hand in the debate by the level of activity from the opposing side. After the first one the right-wing media outlets were relatively quiet, while those on the left were going bonkers. This time is the opposite. Even here, in the microcosm of SubSim, our resident right-leaning polemicists are out in force today. Game two goes to Obama. Prior to the Lybia incident, I would say that the foreign policy debate would be a slam dunk for Obama. Not anymore. It's going to be an interesting finish; a whole lot more interesting than I thought it was going to be.

10-17-12, 11:41 AM	#157
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20