Romney: Palestinians do not want peace

[August]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Just ask Mitt - he knows some pretty good loopholes to avoid being taxed...

I believe you will find not more than a handfull Americans who don't pay taxes: you gotta be self-sufficient, but own no property, no car. You have to buy everything from the black market or acquire anything through bartering. Not even sure about the latter: in Germany "non-cash benefits" also get taxed - the friendly IRS probably has a similar law in their drawer.

I believe he was talking about income taxes.

Originally Posted by August

I believe he was talking about income taxes.

I believe he was distracted by a string hanging from a rear view mirror.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by August

I believe he was talking about income taxes.

Romeney did, but not Privateer.

What I find the most offensive about Romney's way of thought, is that there is an agreement among the US society to give prisoners shelter, food and medical attention. However if they are a law-abiding, they are suddenly not entitled to this anymore? A very strange way of thinking.

Originally Posted by Penguin

Romeney did, but not Privateer.

I just want to know who and where are the 47% who don't pay taxes???


Now I'm not a smart politician and don't travel that circle.........
But I ain't met no one what don't pay taxes to Uncle Sam!
That's what us 'low life' talk about most.
Payin' taxes and gettin our butts handed to us.


So Mitt? Who's the 47% bitch?

[August]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Romeney did, but not Privateer.

What I find the most offensive about Romney's way of thought, is that there is an agreement among the US society to give prisoners shelter, food and medical attention. However if they are a law-abiding, they are suddenly not entitled to this anymore? A very strange way of thinking.

No stranger than your idea that our nation could somehow pay for over 300 million peoples food, shelter and medical attention.

I mean if we can i'm wasting my time going to work every day...

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by August

No stranger than your idea that our nation could somehow pay for over 300 million peoples food, shelter and medical attention.

It's not strange to someone who lives in a union, consisting of 500 million people, which does this.
and: you guys over there do it, too - see my next reply:

Originally Posted by August

I mean if we can i'm wasting my time going to work every day...

My guess is that you want a better life quality than buying your meals from food stamps, living in a project or being forced to go to the ER for medical care.
All these are things that are paid/subsided by tax money. I am not talking about quality or quantity, that's a whole other topic worth discussing.

I'm talking about that basic human needs that should be covered. To me, education is also one of those. Covering the basic needs, that would really mean to level the playing field. If people want better food than ramen, then they should get their asses up and do something about.

I also think that a social net that's worthy of its name, would significantly reduce petty crime and all the costs that are associated with it.

[August]

Originally Posted by Penguin

It's not strange to someone who lives in a union, consisting of 500 million people, which does this.
and: you guys over there do it, too - see my next reply:

You said everyone should have a right to those things. I'm saying that no nation or union could ever afford to give those things to everyone. As for education that is already paid for. I know because I have to pay for it through my property taxes. I suppose you want me to pay for college too?

[Platapus]

I wonder what percentage of companies don't pay taxes?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I wonder what percentage of companies don't pay taxes?

None. Non-profit organizations do not pay taxes.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I wonder what percentage of companies don't pay taxes?

You have to be careful with statistics about this. If you look at something that says "X number of corporations didn't pay income tax" be careful that it doesn't include S corps, as they never pay income tax, by definition. The tax liability for the profits made by S corps flow through to and are divided amongst the shareholders to be reported on their individual tax returns.

This is a sampling, but 26 profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no taxes or actually got a rebate every year since 2008:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/notax2012.pdf

And of course any company that loses money can carry those losses forward to be deducted from profits made in any of the next seven years. And those losses are transferable/saleable to another company in the case of bankruptcy, too.

I know more about this stuff than I care to, lol.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I wonder what percentage of companies don't pay taxes?

We have had a thread on that some years ago, a US senator I think illustrating how many of the big players do not pay at all any net taxes - but even have net beenmfits from the state/tax payers.

Last year, there was this news:

http://thenewpolitical.com/2011/04/0...e-tax-evasion/

This is not by rando m chan ce. Loopholes are wanted, like backdoors in Microisoft software. They are made sure for by lobbyism the industry invests into, and due to the interest of the vultures forming this political system, which is rotten from skin to bones. It's all plutocracy. Plus that big business is globalised, and international palyers now. It doe snot know national loyalties anymore. It's playground is the world, not just one country. The money evades in a 24 hours-cycle, revolving around the Earth in its race to escape being taxed.

And banks - play roulette already again as if never anything has happened, while having been bailed out just short time ago with billions. Nobody has learned anything. Political gangster nevertheless have the nerve to call that "economical recovering".

Like in Berlin, you have wonderful wide and long straight alleys in Washington. Like for Berlin I strongly recommend to prettify the lamppost alongside them by hanging politicians and lobbyists and their clever smart lawyers onto them. That would be a sight of great hope and renewal. When we run out of decoration, we can ask Wall Street and Frankfurt and Brussel for more any time. It seems it is in very rich supply.