U-550 found

August · 07-28-12, 11:00 AM

If it does lay within sport diving depths then maybe the Germans ought to send a detail to recover whatever crew remains still exists like the Japanese did at Truk lagoon. I'd imagine those sailors would prefer going home if they could be asked. I know that I would.

Seth8530 · 07-29-12, 10:24 AM

I know im about to sound very unceremonious here.. But, why do we care so much about dead people? Why shouldn't we be able to explore the u-boat? The dead people are dead? why should they care?

BossMark · 07-29-12, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth8530

I know im about to sound very unceremonious here.. But, why do we care so much about dead people? Why shouldn't we be able to explore the u-boat? The dead people are dead? why should they care?

Respect for the brave men who lost there lives, also it just doesn't seem right does it

Sailor Steve · 07-29-12, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth8530

I know im about to sound very unceremonious here.. But, why do we care so much about dead people? Why shouldn't we be able to explore the u-boat? The dead people are dead? why should they care?

So it's okay for me to dig up your dead grandparents to see if they have any gold on them?

Buddahaid · 07-29-12, 12:27 PM

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So it's okay for me to dig up your dead grandparents to see if they have any gold on them?

Yes it's OK for you to dig up "his" Grandparents and look for gold.

It does bring up what the statute of limitations is about this. How old must a wreck be before it's OK to disturb the dead? I'm sure it's OK for the Spanish armada war graves now for most of us so where does one draw that line?

August · 07-29-12, 01:46 PM

The country that sent them there ought to mount an expedition to search the wreckage and locate, remove and return any human remains for proper burial in the home country.

Then it's not a war grave anymore. We do it for plane crash victims all the time, including war losses even decades after the fact. There's one going on up in Alaska right now for a larger crew than what was on the 550. They just finished bringing back a bunch of WW2 aircrew remains from Burma. I don't see why small ship crews should be treated any differently. You're talking about just 40 bodies not 40,000 like on some large land battlefield.

Otherwise in order to stop civilian divers from disturbing the wreck and remains you will have to secure it and guard it. That will be expensive and oppressive and imo we have enough of both in government lately.

Besides. I never met a sailor or soldier, myself included, who would prefer having his remains left where they fell. Everybody wants to go home. I think we owe it to them to make sure it happens.

Sailor Steve · 07-29-12, 01:52 PM

August makes a valid argument for this. It bears discussion.

u crank · 07-29-12, 02:12 PM

I agree with August.

I think it would also be appropriate to remove an artifact that could be made into a memorial that family members could visit to pay their respects as they are able.

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Besides. I never met a sailor or soldier, myself included, who would prefer having his remains left where they fell. Everybody wants to go home. I think we owe it to them to make sure it happens.

Well said.

Seth8530 · 07-30-12, 03:13 PM

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So it's okay for me to dig up your dead grandparents to see if they have any gold on them?

It would be ok as long as I got a cut of the gold. Dead to me is dead. I dont care where I end up when Im dead. Stick me in a flower pot for all i care. Cremate me and use me as the secret ingredient of your rib rub. makes no difference to me.

Sailor Steve · 07-30-12, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth8530

It would be ok as long as I got a cut of the gold. Dead to me is dead. I dont care where I end up when Im dead. Stick me in a flower pot for all i care. Cremate me and use me as the secret ingredient of your rib rub. makes no difference to me.

Fair enough. I feel pretty much the same way where my own remains are concerned. I don't want to take up space that can be used by the living. That said, most people have some regard for remains. I'm not sure why myself, but I respect their feelings about the subject.

Rhodes · 07-30-12, 06:03 PM

Human remains have a lot to offer to the living!

Seth8530 · 07-30-12, 07:10 PM

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Human remains have a lot to offer to the living!

necro-philiac? hehe.

@ steve

I agree with ya, I believe that the corpses should be respected out of respect for other's but.. Its not like the sailors in the u-boat are overly fond of thier watery coffin. Why not let us poke around for insight into our history? Isnt that the deepest form of respect for the dead?

07-28-12, 11:00 AM	#1
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,217 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If it does lay within sport diving depths then maybe the Germans ought to send a detail to recover whatever crew remains still exists like the Japanese did at Truk lagoon. I'd imagine those sailors would prefer going home if they could be asked. I know that I would. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see. Last edited by August; 07-28-12 at 11:49 AM.

07-29-12, 10:24 AM	#2
Seth8530 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 546 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I know im about to sound very unceremonious here.. But, why do we care so much about dead people? Why shouldn't we be able to explore the u-boat? The dead people are dead? why should they care? __________________

07-29-12, 01:46 PM	#6
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,217 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The country that sent them there ought to mount an expedition to search the wreckage and locate, remove and return any human remains for proper burial in the home country. Then it's not a war grave anymore. We do it for plane crash victims all the time, including war losses even decades after the fact. There's one going on up in Alaska right now for a larger crew than what was on the 550. They just finished bringing back a bunch of WW2 aircrew remains from Burma. I don't see why small ship crews should be treated any differently. You're talking about just 40 bodies not 40,000 like on some large land battlefield. Otherwise in order to stop civilian divers from disturbing the wreck and remains you will have to secure it and guard it. That will be expensive and oppressive and imo we have enough of both in government lately. Besides. I never met a sailor or soldier, myself included, who would prefer having his remains left where they fell. Everybody wants to go home. I think we owe it to them to make sure it happens. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

07-29-12, 01:52 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	August makes a valid argument for this. It bears discussion. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,519 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Human remains have a lot to offer to the living! __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

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