SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter III
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-14-12, 02:37 AM   #1
Shkval
Planesman
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 192
Downloads: 54
Uploads: 0
Default

So bottom line is "attack if you can", and sorry for being boring... how many dc they are carrying? Is number different by type of a destroyer?
__________________
Come closer... and die.
Shkval is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-12, 08:50 AM   #2
irish1958
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Carmel, Indiana
Posts: 3,250
Downloads: 320
Uploads: 11
Default 1944

There is a year 1944 in the game? I have never gotten there.
__________________
Irish1958
irish1958 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 06:51 AM   #3
Hinrich Schwab
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 908
Downloads: 89
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shkval View Post
So bottom line is "attack if you can", and sorry for being boring... how many dc they are carrying? Is number different by type of a destroyer?
The number of depth charges vary between destroyer classes. A good guesstimate is between 36-72. Also, in the later war are Hedgehog ASW mortars. These things throw out a nice ring of death to find your sub and all have impact fuses. A Hedgehog mortar has roughly 12 tubes and most ASW vessels could fire 2-4 volleys.
Hinrich Schwab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 08:30 AM   #4
Flyingrodent
Swabbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9
Downloads: 32
Uploads: 0
Default

I must confess that this is my first campaign so I'm guilty of reloading because I want to develop my tactics and witness all the events of the war. I'm then going to start from scratch with no reloads.

When I got back to port I realised an updated sonar covering was available so I'm going to see if that helps. It was a surprise to find La Rochelle was in the midst of an air raid when I set sail.

Despite trying all the helpful tips you've all given I've still not been able to shake off a pursuing escort. I can dodge the D/C and other nasties but once the escort has run out of these it continuously circles my tin can until I have to surface.

The best distance I managed was getting the escort to the outer circle on the attack map using decoys and quick bursts of speed. Firing a homing eel before diving can also help because if you sink the nearest escort you just might be able to escape before another arrives.

However, I've concluded that from 1944 onwards it is far better to sacrifice targetting accuracy and keeping your distance from convoys. Normally firing at a distance of 4-5km will allow you to escape before the escort arrives and score a few hits. It also pays to have a go at the escorts before the merchants so that the defence isn't quite as tough. Lastly, there are still the odd merchant sailing alone in 1944 so it's much safer to go after those.

Mike
Flyingrodent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 08:41 AM   #5
SubConscious
Frogman
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 309
Downloads: 102
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyingrodent View Post
Despite trying all the helpful tips you've all given I've still not been able to shake off a pursuing escort. I can dodge the D/C and other nasties but once the escort has run out of these it continuously circles my tin can until I have to surface.
Hi Mike,

This is historically accurate and is why U-boats had approximately 80% losses in WWII. During the last year of the war, anti-submarine warfare was really perfected, and the escorts were absolutely tenacious. If they didn't destroy it outright with depth charges / hedgehogs, they prosecuted the U-boat until it was forced to surface due to lack of oxygen. Escorts would work in packs, with some drifting and listening, functionally invisible to the U-boat below, while others ran depth charge patterns.

In short, it was close to suicide to be aboard a U-boat in 1944. If you go to sites like http://www.uboat.net/fates/, you can get a good idea of what it must have been like for the U-boatmen.

I hope this helps.

David

PS - U-boats are never referred to as "Tin Cans", as that was the term for Destroyers.
__________________
"Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas..."
- Emerson
SubConscious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 08:50 AM   #6
Flyingrodent
Swabbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9
Downloads: 32
Uploads: 0
Default

I'm glad the game is accurate as well because it's all part of the fun. I'd like to be part of the 20% survivors though so the day I escape a 1944 escort I'll be jumping around like a loony! I might even dress up in a grass skirt, wear makeup and dance to 'music' played on pipes and tin cans!

Quote:
Originally Posted by SubConscious View Post
PS - U-boats are never referred to as "Tin Cans", as that was the term for Destroyers.
Flyingrodent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 10:52 AM   #7
codmander
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: cape cod mass.
Posts: 678
Downloads: 59
Uploads: 0
Default

Sink...
codmander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-12, 11:42 AM   #8
Kpt. Lehmann
GWX Project Director
 
Kpt. Lehmann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 6,995
Downloads: 124
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by codmander View Post
Sink...
OY! Codmander... I nearly fell out of my chair laughing! Got coffee everywhere!
__________________

www.thegreywolves.com
All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock
Kpt. Lehmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 12:36 PM   #9
SubConscious
Frogman
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 309
Downloads: 102
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyingrodent View Post
I'm glad the game is accurate as well because it's all part of the fun. I'd like to be part of the 20% survivors though so the day I escape a 1944 escort I'll be jumping around like a loony! I might even dress up in a grass skirt, wear makeup and dance to 'music' played on pipes and tin cans!
That's exactly the way I feel about it. Just surviving is a significant accomplishment!
__________________
"Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas..."
- Emerson
SubConscious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-12, 06:03 PM   #10
Rhodes
Silent Hunter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal
Posts: 4,518
Downloads: 110
Uploads: 0
Default

Be More Aggressive!
Rhodes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.