SHIV crashing with AA enabled

bogaty · 06-30-12, 06:46 PM

1050 watt PSU. Ive been testing various in game graphics settings such as SSAO, V sync, etc but no luck so far.

stanger · 06-30-12, 07:07 PM

You said you had graphic corruption with adaptive AA too? It's a transparency AA, you shouldnt have such problems, I run it on my old nvidia card with no problems. There is also something called "Catalyst AI" which can control some optimizations? If you have something like it, take a look what options are there, disable the thing maybe?
But as you see, Its a lot of guessing from my part as I am nvidia user, you should wait for somebody who knows ATI better (a lot of people here bought ATI cards when SH4 came out...).

bogaty · 06-30-12, 07:13 PM

AMD cards have had an issue with adaptive AA and SHIV for quite a while. If you enable it, any damaged ship or sub looks like it has no hull.

I have tried with Catalyst AI enabled and disabled but it seems to make no difference. As the gsme ran without issue in my AMD 6870 card, i can only assume that this is specific to the 7000 series. I know Shogun 2 wont work in them at all. Wondering if anyone else with a 7000 series card can reproduce this problem.

merc4ulfate · 06-30-12, 10:15 PM

NVIDIA ... love how they work so well

stanger · 07-01-12, 04:28 AM

Except no sun halo with 8xAA. And except when they disable one certain functionality and I have to use half-legal hacks to get it back, and except when their drivers team decide to burn peoples cards to "encurage" them to upgrade... yeah, nvidia is good.

To be honest they both, ATI and NVIDA are worth each other

@bogaty: you may check few other things: 1) your motherboard has 4 pci-e slots - 3x pcie 3.0 @16x and one that runs @8x - make sure the gpu is in one of 16x slots, not 8x. 2) you may also check if your card shifts power states properly, meaning if it goes from idle clocks and pci-e 1.1 mode to pci-e 3.0 (you can use newest version of gpu-z for that). 3) Is your GPU some overclocked edition? You can try to run the game with fixed clock speeds (in Afterburner, you can then reset it after quiting the game and all will be back to normal\factory settings); Btw is that your card: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1962/1/ ?
4) There is new bios version for your MB on asus site (from june 13), may improve stability.

bogaty · 07-01-12, 07:56 AM

This is the card I bought.

http://www.directcanada.com/products...cture=SAPPHIRE

It's not overclocked right now. I'm running at 925 MHz.
It's in the right PCIe slot and it went through a proper burn in cycle at the shop before I picked it up.

Thanks for the info about Afterburner and power cycling. I have to admit my ignorance on much of this stuff. I am busily reading up on how to use Afterburner and GPU-Z and what all the numbers mean. Will try them out and see what they say.

Mobo bios is the most recent one. It was flashed on June 20th.

Hylander_1314 · 07-01-12, 09:40 PM

Nice vidcard! Yeah, I awitched to NVidia when I built this rig. I think the next build will be back to ATI and AMD.

Caustic · 08-16-12, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogaty

AMD cards have had an issue with adaptive AA and SHIV for quite a while. If you enable it, any damaged ship or sub looks like it has no hull.

I have tried with Catalyst AI enabled and disabled but it seems to make no difference. As the gsme ran without issue in my AMD 6870 card, i can only assume that this is specific to the 7000 series. I know Shogun 2 wont work in them at all. Wondering if anyone else with a 7000 series card can reproduce this problem.

I can confirm that this is happening with my 6870, the problem is probably related to the catalyst 12.6 graphics driver.

HW3 · 08-16-12, 07:42 PM

The 12.8 driver was released on the 15th of August.

Quote:

RESOLVED ISSUES

This section provides information on resolved known issues in this release of the AMD Catalyst 12.8 software suite.

Resolved Issues for the Windows 7 Operating System

Over/underscan settings are correctly restored on system reboot
SolidWorks: Graphical corruption is no longer experienced
Crysis Warhead: No longer crashes when launched in DirectX 10 mode
System no longer hangs when resuming from sleep mode
Audio is no longer disabled if the connected HDTV Is switched off/on
Enabling dual graphics mode with a HD 7000 series product no longer displays green video playback
Call of Duty- Black Ops : No longer hangs when loading a mission in DirectX 9 mode with Crossfire enabled
Shogun 2: Flickering text is no longer experienced
Star Wars ***8211; The Old Republic: In game cinematics no longer experience flicker when using the arrow keys
Dirt Showdown: 8-Ball track no longer hangs with AMD Crossfire functionality enabled
Max Payne 3: A black screen is no longer observed when launching game in DirectX 11 mode with AMD Crossfire functionality enabled
Max Payne 3: Applying in game settings no longer causes the game to crash
Resolved Issues for the Windows 8 Operating System (These issues were found in the Catalyst driver for the Windows 8 Preview)

Video playback using the Metro video player no longer shows green corruption
Deus Ex - Human Revolution: Graphics corruption is no longer experienced during in game cinematics with AMD Crossfire functionality enabled
Battlefield 3: game no longer crashes when AMD Crossfire functionality is enabled
Need for Speed ***8211; The Run: game no longer crashes to the desktop
Blocky video corruption no longer seen when using VLC
System no longer hangs when using PowerDVD
Green video corruption is no longer seen when using various video players
Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

QQ Dancer: A black screen is no longer randomly experienced
KNOWN ISSUES

The following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced with the AMD Catalyst 12.8 software suite.

Known issues under the Windows 7 operating system

Max Payne 3: Lights may flicker when run in Direct X 11 mode in a triple AMD Crossfire configuration
F1 2011: Vehicle textures may flicker when graphics profile is set to low
Enemy Territory Quake Wars: Poor performance may be experienced with AMD Crossfire technology enabled
Rage: Poor performance may be experienced with AMD Crossfire technology enabled
Known issues under the Windows 8 operating system

Blocky corruption may be experienced when playing back Flash video content
De-interlacing settings may not be applied to interlaced content when using MPC-HC and PowerDVD
Civilization V: game may crash when run in DirectX 9 mode
Total War ***8211; Shogun 2: game may experience random crashes
Rage: game may experience random crashes
Known issues under the Windows XP operating system

Diablo 3/Starcraft 2/World of Warcraft: Performance may be affected when run in windowed mode

I'm not sure how they run in SH IV, I haven't installed them yet.

Caustic · 08-16-12, 08:26 PM

Changing my game directory stopped the visual artifacts and crashing for the most part; one of the strangest problems i've ever come across.

Make sure your Silent Hunter 4 folder is not located in "program files (x84)" if you experience any of the problems in this thread.

07-01-12, 04:28 AM	#5
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Except no sun halo with 8xAA. And except when they disable one certain functionality and I have to use half-legal hacks to get it back, and except when their drivers team decide to burn peoples cards to "encurage" them to upgrade... yeah, nvidia is good. To be honest they both, ATI and NVIDA are worth each other @bogaty: you may check few other things: 1) your motherboard has 4 pci-e slots - 3x pcie 3.0 @16x and one that runs @8x - make sure the gpu is in one of 16x slots, not 8x. 2) you may also check if your card shifts power states properly, meaning if it goes from idle clocks and pci-e 1.1 mode to pci-e 3.0 (you can use newest version of gpu-z for that). 3) Is your GPU some overclocked edition? You can try to run the game with fixed clock speeds (in Afterburner, you can then reset it after quiting the game and all will be back to normal\factory settings); Btw is that your card: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1962/1/ ? 4) There is new bios version for your MB on asus site (from june 13), may improve stability. Last edited by stanger; 07-01-12 at 05:16 AM.

07-01-12, 09:40 PM	#7
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Nice vidcard! Yeah, I awitched to NVidia when I built this rig. I think the next build will be back to ATI and AMD. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

08-16-12, 08:26 PM	#10
Caustic Torpedoman Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cape May, New Jersey Posts: 118 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 6	Changing my game directory stopped the visual artifacts and crashing for the most part; one of the strangest problems i've ever come across. Make sure your Silent Hunter 4 folder is not located in "program files (x84)" if you experience any of the problems in this thread. __________________

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06-30-12, 06:46 PM	#1
bogaty Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	1050 watt PSU. Ive been testing various in game graphics settings such as SSAO, V sync, etc but no luck so far.

06-30-12, 07:07 PM	#2
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	You said you had graphic corruption with adaptive AA too? It's a transparency AA, you shouldnt have such problems, I run it on my old nvidia card with no problems. There is also something called "Catalyst AI" which can control some optimizations? If you have something like it, take a look what options are there, disable the thing maybe? But as you see, Its a lot of guessing from my part as I am nvidia user, you should wait for somebody who knows ATI better (a lot of people here bought ATI cards when SH4 came out...).

06-30-12, 07:13 PM	#3
bogaty Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	AMD cards have had an issue with adaptive AA and SHIV for quite a while. If you enable it, any damaged ship or sub looks like it has no hull. I have tried with Catalyst AI enabled and disabled but it seems to make no difference. As the gsme ran without issue in my AMD 6870 card, i can only assume that this is specific to the 7000 series. I know Shogun 2 wont work in them at all. Wondering if anyone else with a 7000 series card can reproduce this problem.

06-30-12, 10:15 PM	#4
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	NVIDIA ... love how they work so well

07-01-12, 07:56 AM	#6
bogaty Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	This is the card I bought. http://www.directcanada.com/products...cture=SAPPHIRE It's not overclocked right now. I'm running at 925 MHz. It's in the right PCIe slot and it went through a proper burn in cycle at the shop before I picked it up. Thanks for the info about Afterburner and power cycling. I have to admit my ignorance on much of this stuff. I am busily reading up on how to use Afterburner and GPU-Z and what all the numbers mean. Will try them out and see what they say. Mobo bios is the most recent one. It was flashed on June 20th.