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Old 06-23-12, 08:59 PM   #1
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Talk is cheap. You have yet to show that you know anything. How about trying to refute the argument with facts rather than trying to win by dismissal.

"There is much more that destroys the assertion?" Show it then. Let's see what you "know". Show the "truth" about the manuscript evidence. So far all you've done is talk. You also need to show exactly where the Bible tells you to hate the way you do.
Sorry you feel that way SS,
There is only one scripture I can give to you:
Matthew Chapter 6 verse 7

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Old 06-23-12, 09:29 PM   #2
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Sorry you feel that way SS,
There is only one scripture I can give to you:
Matthew Chapter 6 verse 7
I would suggest that Matthew 7, verses 3-5 would be more appropriate for you.
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Old 06-23-12, 09:35 PM   #3
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My view is that homosexuality is a sickness, a man does not play with another man's parts, it's just plain sick. However as morals have slipped so far and we know that we live in a sick world, what a man chooses to do with another man consensually is their business as long as they conduct it in private - but when innocent children are victimised, as far as I'm concerned pedophiles should be locked up and the key thrown away. This a Christian view and mine as well.

Some members will agree while others will disagree. The fact is if an atheist has the right to his/her opinion on this forum so does a christian or anyone else for that matter.
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Old 06-23-12, 10:26 PM   #4
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Dragging homosexuality into an argument about pedophilia is completely stupid. That's all the comment this thread deserves.
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Old 06-23-12, 11:00 PM   #5
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Dragging homosexuality into an argument about pedophilia is completely stupid. That's all the comment this thread deserves.
Really, then how do you explain little boys being molested by men? Isn't
that a same sex union too.
The idea that "homosexuals" have any self restraint when it comes to pursuing
their cravings is nonsense and that is what is completely stupid.

In an earlier post the claim was made that a third of children where boys and
two thirds where girls. And therefore that proves the majority of the perps
where heterosexuals. Now why would I pretend the male perpetrators of the
boys be anything but homosexuals?

Let me give you something else to consider. If you take two thirds of the
molested and put it up to the total number of heterosexual males, you will
see a tiny sliver of a percent of the overall heterosexual male population.
But, if you take the one third and put it against the overall homosexual male
population the percent is huge in comparison.

I hope this helps, it certainly explains why some have been so vicious in their attempt to silence this issue - huh?

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Old 06-23-12, 11:35 PM   #6
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Now why would I pretend the male perpetrators of the
boys be anything but homosexuals?
You could pretend that they are homosexuals and not pedophiles to prove your point...still i guess that not every person above 18 who has sex with someone under 18 is pedophile.It may be a fluid situation in reality but black&white by law sometimes.
I guess that when such a case occurs with homosexual couple we might have a bit skewed view and jump to some conclusions.


Actually i find it funny that religion is so well defined about homosexuality but very shady when it comes to issues of sexual/mental maturity...in particular regarding women.

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Old 06-24-12, 12:12 AM   #7
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You could pretend that they are homosexuals and not pedophiles to prove your point...still i guess that not every person above 18 who has sex with someone under 18 is pedophile.It may be a fluid situation in reality but black&white by law sometimes.
I guess that when such a case occurs with homosexual couple we might have a bit skewed view and jump to some conclusions.
I can see why names that classify criminal behavior is necessary in the law.
But to then use these names to give order to chaos which is sexual perversion,
is worse then misleading. It gives the false sense that there are
hard boundaries and a false sense of predictability. And plays a role that
predators use to win trust. As with Sandusky, everything about this guy
was a lie. How could this guy deceive so many for so long with so many victims?
I think the time to rethink this entire area of human behavior is over due.
To few have had to much power to make decisions that produced to many
truly innocent victims and yet are still considered experts.

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Old 06-24-12, 07:36 AM   #8
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Really, then how do you explain little boys being molested by men? Isn't
that a same sex union too.
The idea that "homosexuals" have any self restraint when it comes to pursuing
their cravings is nonsense and that is what is completely stupid.
A personal feeling for which you have no evidence. You might as well say that all heterosexuals are perverts because some like little girls.

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In an earlier post the claim was made that a third of children where boys and
two thirds where girls. And therefore that proves the majority of the perps
where heterosexuals. Now why would I pretend the male perpetrators of the
boys be anything but homosexuals?
A valid argument. The problem is that even if all molesters of boys are homosexuals it doesn't follow that all homosexuals molest boys. See my comment immediately above.

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I hope this helps, it certainly explains why some have been so vicious in their attempt to silence this issue - huh?
No one has attempted to silence the issue. No one has even attempted to silence your ludicrous attempts to equate all gays with one man's sickness. We have only attempted to show you your own perversion of hatred.
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Soooo, how many of you do gardening ??
It has been suggested that the OP is secretly rather fond of uphill gardening.
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