Sales

sonar732 · 12-29-05, 11:56 PM

Jamie and SCS,

Just a quick question on how long y'all tell us if the game is meeting sales expectations?

drEaPer · 12-30-05, 02:59 AM

Something interesting, but guess they wont tell it to the public.

Sea Demon · 12-30-05, 11:09 PM

Well, if they come here and say they're exceeding sales expectations, I'm sure the people here will begin pounding them for add-on packs. In a way, I don't blame em'.

Sea Demon

XanderF · 12-30-05, 11:32 PM

On the OTHER hand, if they say they are falling behind in sales expectations...we might all run out and pick up another retail copy!

So, could work in their favor to report in... :P

SKeeM · 12-31-05, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderF

On the OTHER hand, if they say they are falling behind in sales expectations...we might all run out and pick up another retail copy!

So, could work in their favor to report in... :P

Honestly? Only because Jamie is the coolest DEV i have ever met from any game. ANY GAME! If that was the case i would buy a copy not only for myself but for all the guys i hate and would love to frustrate.

Three14 · 01-04-06, 03:25 PM

A starting point for estimating. Who can come closest?

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...rgin-bin_x.htm

This article was written in June (SH3 was released...around March?) -- though other copies of the same article might be out there with an earlier date.

'Silent Hunter III'

www.silenthunteriii.com, $29.99

26,600 units

Become a U-boat commander and experience the thrill of World War II combat on the high seas. The simulation challenges players to work with their crew to hone their submarine tactics as they stalk and outmaneuver enemies on realistic naval missions, all displayed in 3-D and with lots of atmosphere. An online feature lets up to four players tackle missions cooperatively against the game's artificial intelligence
--

Remember that Battlefront was giving about 75% (or was it 90%) back to the developers. 26,600*$50*.75 is just about $1 million dollars, which I think can safely be called the high end for DW.

John Channing · 01-04-06, 05:02 PM

Actually that figure is probably grossly inaccurate. The article was published in June, but probably written in April, only a few weeks after release. Those of us who were around then remember the first pressing sold out very quickly and there was a 2-3 week gap while UbiSoft restocked their distribution channels. It was probably during this period that the article was written. Hell, even the UbiSoft store sold out virtually overnight.

As well it only accounts for US sales.

Given that UbiSoft is underway with Silent Hunter 4 it is safe to assume that sales for Silent Hunter 3 were well in excess of that number.

But to the question at hand, DW sales figures are probably confidential, but it is safe to assume that "NEVER ENOUGH" is pretty accurate!

JCC

Fish · 01-04-06, 06:33 PM

Well, with all those new guys here on the forum I think sales are doing just fine.

Pirate · 01-04-06, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Well, with all those new guys here on the forum I think sales are doing just fine.

Yes, I think new people around here is a good sign

sonar732 · 01-05-06, 10:20 AM

I just attempted to search for DW on Best Buy's website and came up blank when it came up a week ago. Keep the games flowing to them Jamie!!!

Jamie · 01-05-06, 12:06 PM

We actually don't have a whole lot of feedback from retailers yet. We know how many "sell-in" units there were however we do not know how many of those units "sold-through" at the retailers (vs. units that are still sitting on the shelves).

When I know more I will let you guys know, but the moment we're just as much "in the dark" as you guys (well, maybe we have a very dim flashlight, but it certainly doesn't shine very brightly... :P)

Hopefully we will know something this month, though.

sonar732 · 01-10-06, 11:34 PM

This is good news!!!

Products that are UNAVAILABLE at a specific store will show the store name and address grayed out.

Springfield IL 3193 S Veterans Pkwy, Springfield, IL 62704 Map & Directions
Forsyth IL 1450 Koester Dr, Forsyth, IL 62535-8917 Map & Directions
Bloomington IL 2103 N Veterans Pkwy, Bloomington, IL 61704 Map & Directions
Peoria IL 5001 N Big Hollow Rd, Peoria, IL 61615 Map & Directions
Champaign IL 2117 N Prospect Ave, Champaign, IL 61822-1238 Map & Directions
Bridgeton MO 12410 St Charles Rock Rd, Bridgeton, MO 63044

Columbia MO 2001 W Worley St, Columbia, MO 65203 Map & Directions
Mid Rivers Mall MO 5651 South Service Road, Saint Peters, MO 63376 Map & Directions
Springfield IL 3193 S Veterans Pkwy, Springfield, IL 62704 Map & Directions
Bridgeton MO 12410 St Charles Rock Rd, Bridgeton, MO 63044 Map & Directions
Chesterfield MO 178 Thf Blvd, Chesterfield, MO 63005-1123 Map & Directions
Ellisville MO 15678 Manchester Rd, Ellisville, MO 63011-2261

I placed the locations in bold that have current stock. This covers a good 200 mile radius from my home!!!

XanderF · 01-10-06, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonar732

I placed the locations in bold that have current stock. This covers a good 200 mile radius from my home!!!

Wouldn't really call that 'good' news - MOST Best Buys likely never stocked the item at all.

My wife bought me a copy of the retail version for my birthday last month (yes, birthday in December, sucks to be me), which was the only copy they had on their shelves. They've received 4 shipments of new items since then, but never another copy of DW.

IE., they didn't both to re-order it.

Now, think about that. If a store orders ONE copy of a game...it 'sells out' in less than 3 weeks...but then never orders a replacement for it...what does that tell *you*?

(Speaking from someone with retail experience, what it means is that the item is being an extremely light seller in most locations, so the fact that this one 'sold out' so quickly is irrelevant. There is always SOMEONE in SOME area that will buy anything, so they are just counting their blessings this was picked off their shelves and looking at national trends to see if they should restock or not - to see if it's an item of general interest or not. That they have not indicates it is not.)

Fandango · 01-24-06, 09:58 AM

*bump*

Any updates?...

XabbaRus · 01-24-06, 12:19 PM

Or stock controllers aren't doing their job.

When I was a stock controller at Tesco a huge retailer in the UK we would have to check that the triggers for reordering were set right.

Thing is we would get a shipment of maybe only 3 copies of a good selling game. It would sell out in days and be counted as an out of stock on the system. Now if it didn't reorder in two days we'd have to see when a delivery was due and how many.

Quite often the triggers would be set wrong and we would have to tell the system this was an in demand product. Also the system would be set to respond after a certain amount had been sold but that wouldn't be possible as we had recieved a smaller amount.

OR there stock fillers are doing a rubbish job, none are being put out on the shelf and the system thinks it is a non-seller. so doesn't re-order.

12-29-05, 11:56 PM	#1
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Sales Jamie and SCS, Just a quick question on how long y'all tell us if the game is meeting sales expectations?

01-24-06, 09:58 AM	#14
Fandango Officer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Trieste, Italy Posts: 236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	bump Any updates?... __________________ The true worth of a man is to be measured by the objects he pursues. - Marcus Aurelius

01-24-06, 12:19 PM	#15
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Or stock controllers aren't doing their job. When I was a stock controller at Tesco a huge retailer in the UK we would have to check that the triggers for reordering were set right. Thing is we would get a shipment of maybe only 3 copies of a good selling game. It would sell out in days and be counted as an out of stock on the system. Now if it didn't reorder in two days we'd have to see when a delivery was due and how many. Quite often the triggers would be set wrong and we would have to tell the system this was an in demand product. Also the system would be set to respond after a certain amount had been sold but that wouldn't be possible as we had recieved a smaller amount. OR there stock fillers are doing a rubbish job, none are being put out on the shelf and the system thinks it is a non-seller. so doesn't re-order. __________________

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12-30-05, 02:59 AM	#2
drEaPer Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 176 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Something interesting, but guess they wont tell it to the public.

12-30-05, 11:09 PM	#3
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Well, if they come here and say they're exceeding sales expectations, I'm sure the people here will begin pounding them for add-on packs. In a way, I don't blame em'. Sea Demon

12-30-05, 11:32 PM	#4
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	On the OTHER hand, if they say they are falling behind in sales expectations...we might all run out and pick up another retail copy! So, could work in their favor to report in... :P

01-04-06, 03:25 PM	#6
Three14 Seaman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A starting point for estimating. Who can come closest? http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...rgin-bin_x.htm This article was written in June (SH3 was released...around March?) -- though other copies of the same article might be out there with an earlier date. 'Silent Hunter III' www.silenthunteriii.com, $29.99 26,600 units Become a U-boat commander and experience the thrill of World War II combat on the high seas. The simulation challenges players to work with their crew to hone their submarine tactics as they stalk and outmaneuver enemies on realistic naval missions, all displayed in 3-D and with lots of atmosphere. An online feature lets up to four players tackle missions cooperatively against the game's artificial intelligence -- Remember that Battlefront was giving about 75% (or was it 90%) back to the developers. 26,600$50.75 is just about $1 million dollars, which I think can safely be called the high end for DW.

01-04-06, 05:02 PM	#7
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Actually that figure is probably grossly inaccurate. The article was published in June, but probably written in April, only a few weeks after release. Those of us who were around then remember the first pressing sold out very quickly and there was a 2-3 week gap while UbiSoft restocked their distribution channels. It was probably during this period that the article was written. Hell, even the UbiSoft store sold out virtually overnight. As well it only accounts for US sales. Given that UbiSoft is underway with Silent Hunter 4 it is safe to assume that sales for Silent Hunter 3 were well in excess of that number. But to the question at hand, DW sales figures are probably confidential, but it is safe to assume that "NEVER ENOUGH" is pretty accurate! JCC

01-04-06, 06:33 PM	#8
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, with all those new guys here on the forum I think sales are doing just fine.

01-05-06, 10:20 AM	#10
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I just attempted to search for DW on Best Buy's website and came up blank when it came up a week ago. Keep the games flowing to them Jamie!!!

01-05-06, 12:06 PM	#11
Jamie Sonalysts Inc. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Middletown, CT (USA) Posts: 204 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We actually don't have a whole lot of feedback from retailers yet. We know how many "sell-in" units there were however we do not know how many of those units "sold-through" at the retailers (vs. units that are still sitting on the shelves). When I know more I will let you guys know, but the moment we're just as much "in the dark" as you guys (well, maybe we have a very dim flashlight, but it certainly doesn't shine very brightly... :P) Hopefully we will know something this month, though.

01-10-06, 11:34 PM	#12
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	This is good news!!! Products that are UNAVAILABLE at a specific store will show the store name and address grayed out. Springfield IL 3193 S Veterans Pkwy, Springfield, IL 62704 Map & Directions Forsyth IL 1450 Koester Dr, Forsyth, IL 62535-8917 Map & Directions Bloomington IL 2103 N Veterans Pkwy, Bloomington, IL 61704 Map & Directions Peoria IL 5001 N Big Hollow Rd, Peoria, IL 61615 Map & Directions Champaign IL 2117 N Prospect Ave, Champaign, IL 61822-1238 Map & Directions Bridgeton MO 12410 St Charles Rock Rd, Bridgeton, MO 63044 Columbia MO 2001 W Worley St, Columbia, MO 65203 Map & Directions Mid Rivers Mall MO 5651 South Service Road, Saint Peters, MO 63376 Map & Directions Springfield IL 3193 S Veterans Pkwy, Springfield, IL 62704 Map & Directions Bridgeton MO 12410 St Charles Rock Rd, Bridgeton, MO 63044 Map & Directions Chesterfield MO 178 Thf Blvd, Chesterfield, MO 63005-1123 Map & Directions Ellisville MO 15678 Manchester Rd, Ellisville, MO 63011-2261 I placed the locations in bold that have current stock. This covers a good 200 mile radius from my home!!!