[REL] Navigation Map Make-Over with Airbases

[Hylander_1314]

Any chance of restoring the docks to Midway by chance? The docks in TMO.

[stanger]

So, can you check if its the same in your game? Look at Christmas Island.

About Midway - I was asking similar thing in RSRD thread. But now, after looking at this mod (NavMap Makeover) I think it can be easier than I though, because after installing Nbjacksos mod Ive got Pearl sub base from TMO back in RSRD, so I think it can be done by editing LOC file in editor, choose "location editing mode" (or something like that, can't remember its precise name), select Midway, edit it. There was such option to select the location mode between 2D/3D, but I wasnt brave enough to save the file and check whether it works or not, cause its a little bit confusing to me - select location map dds file and thats it?? All the location will be there in 3D?
But we will never know unless we try it, I guess

OK, got a closer look, know how to edit a location: just do above, and in location properties window point it to right dat and dds files; there should be 2 for Midway: one for environment (trees and so on), one for infrastructure (ports, airfields...).; so, edit it, place it in right spot on the map (if needed) and... and here come another problem :P How to save it??? It wants to validate it (like normal mission) but finds some errors like ships without waypoints or too close to each other. Maybe I should choose other saving option, like save as map notes layer or something like that?
I could manually edit that file with notepad++, but I cant change location placement that way

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Any chance of restoring the docks to Midway by chance? The docks in TMO.

The Docks and runways you are refering to are not modified in TMO. They are part of the original vanilla version of the game. Lurker modified the island in RSRDC. My guess is because in the original version the island was "Overdeveloped", with too many buildings, and the port is definitely too big. Midway was not much more than an outpost, with barley enough supplies and equipment to get the job done.

Originally Posted by stanger

So, can you check if its the same in your game? Look at Christmas Island.

About Midway - I was asking similar thing in RSRD thread. But now, after looking at this mod (NavMap Makeover) I think it can be easier than I though, because after installing Nbjacksos mod Ive got Pearl sub base from TMO back in RSRD, so I think it can be done by editing LOC file in editor, choose "location editing mode" (or something like that, can't remember its precise name), select Midway, edit it. There was such option to select the location mode between 2D/3D, but I wasnt brave enough to save the file and check whether it works or not, cause its a little bit confusing to me - select location map dds file and thats it?? All the location will be there in 3D?
But we will never know unless we try it, I guess

OK, got a closer look, know how to edit a location: just do above, and in location properties window point it to right dat and dds files; there should be 2 for Midway: one for environment (trees and so on), one for infrastructure (ports, airfields...).; so, edit it, place it in right spot on the map (if needed) and... and here come another problem :P How to save it??? It wants to validate it (like normal mission) but finds some errors like ships without waypoints or too close to each other. Maybe I should choose other saving option, like save as map notes layer or something like that?
I could manually edit that file with notepad++, but I cant change location placement that way

stranger - you are definitely on the right track. The two files your referring to are; Midway_ground.dat and Midway_water.dat. I also played around with it for awhile, but I was not satisfied with the results. I think in order to do this the right way, you need to know how to modify the DAT files, which I don't know how.

IF I could have my wish, I would like to see the airstrips on both islands, (historically accurate), but have the port scaled WAY back, or removed altogether.

In my opinion, I don't mind the "stripped down" version, because when I start a patrol from Midway, I start "outside the harbor", and don't really care about what is on the island.

However, I do appreciate everyone's input regarding my mod. Thanks.

[Hylander_1314]

Ah, okay! Thanks! Much appreciated. Looks great too!

[stanger]

Those dat files can be opened in S3D, but to edit it the way you want (and its a good idea to leave airfield only) - it must be exported and edited in some 3D software, or maybe it can be done within S3D (like removing only unwanted parts...). Either way - I dont know much about 3D modeling.

[Nbjackso]

I may take another look at adding the stock Midway, (airstrip & port) and uploading as a patch for NMMO.

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

I may take another look at adding the stock Midway, (airstrip & port) and uploading as a patch for NMMO.

You may want to take a look at how RFB has Midway set up, as Sailor Steve mentioned in another thread, that they had Midway set up to look like it did during the war, and maybe adapt that version.

Just an idea maybe?

[flaminus]

This mod looks great, thank you Nbjackso. But since i search through this thread, i found that someone said it conflicted with RSRD while some said there's no problem to run it with RSRD.

So, i'm a little confused about this issue, can we run these two Mods togeher or we need to do some more modification to make them compatible?

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by flaminus

. . . i found that someone said it conflicted with RSRD while some said there's no problem to run it with RSRD.

So, i'm a little confused about this issue, can we run these two Mods togeher or we need to do some more modification to make them compatible?

NMMO v2.1 with Patch 1 is modded to work with RSRDC. Here is an excerpt from the readme file.

Modified US harbor traffic and US Naval Base files in order to make this mod compatible with all the major super mods, (I tested it with SH4 stock version, GFO, FOTRS, RFB, and TMO both with and without RSRDC. Everything seems to work OK, without any game-play issues that I noticed.

I hope this helps,
Nbjackso

[fitzcarraldo]

I use the mod 2.1 with patch and no problems in TMO 25 RSRDC and FOTRS 13.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[flaminus]

Thank you guys, forgive me for my careless mistake.

[mariksio30]

Is it possible to start from Pearl Sub Base or Sub Tender?