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[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

whoa there TDW, I can understand your frustation over this new "project", I share it myself, but there is no need to resort to personal attacks, especially not against Dan who has tried very hard to keep the "simulation" in SH, all the way back to SH III. That is not the way we do things here at Subsim.

And before anyone else starts going over the deep end over this, let's remember we are talking about a GAME.

Let us all move on now....please.

Originally Posted by privateer

Oh come on now!
We know you do it for the perks like the Company Car
and snazzy Helmet.

A pretty good likeness but a bit leaner these days

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Let us all move on now....please.



A pretty good likeness but a bit leaner these days

Well I should imagine so seeing as you have to pedal the Company Car to work here.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by privateer

Well I should imagine so seeing as you have to pedal the Company Car to work here.

Bad boy

[elanaiba]

Mihai Maerean left Ubi a bit before I did. He's now working for Adobe in Romania, happily I presume

I can't get mad at TDW after all the good bits he's done for SH and by extension for me and Ubi. I'm happy I left Ubi, partly because of the debacle of the SH series.

I consider myself an example of integrity but who knows, maybe I need to look at things in a different perspective. To get anything done in a company it seems you need to make some compromises, at least in Ro.

Being inside of Ubi I knew that I couldn't pull anything to fix SH5 so I perceived SHO as a new plate, esp. from a new team that had nothing to do with the issues of SH3/4/5 which are caused by us in Ubi Ro. Maybe they could do it right?

After all, I did try to get the "always-on DRM" out of SH5 every month after release and never achieved anything.

Anyway, can't stay and chat longer, my kid is getting baptized tomorrow and still have some stuff to fix for that.

Think of SHO as a standalone project centered on MP interaction. Try it if you will, could be interesting but I have to see it. I don't think you'll get anyone to give you the code for SH3/4/5 in an official form or even do another patch for those.

Dan,
When anyone questions your integrity?
I have to question their motive.

I'm willing to give SHO a fair chance for many reasons.
That you had something to do with it in anyway just gives me more reason to try it out.


Take care of that bundle of joy Mate!


Jeff

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Being inside of Ubi I knew that I couldn't pull anything to fix SH5 so I perceived SHO as a new plate,

Anyway, can't stay and chat longer, my kid is getting baptized tomorrow and still have some stuff to fix for that.

Is that how the dev team approached the new installments to the series? i.e.: from 3 to 4 to 5? If so I hope it's not a completely new plate. Keep what works fix what doesn't would be my advice to this team.

Also, enjoy the time with your family!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Mihai Maerean left Ubi a bit before I did. He's now working for Adobe in Romania, happily I presume

I can't get mad at TDW after all the good bits he's done for SH and by extension for me and Ubi. I'm happy I left Ubi, partly because of the debacle of the SH series.

I consider myself an example of integrity but who knows, maybe I need to look at things in a different perspective. To get anything done in a company it seems you need to make some compromises, at least in Ro.

Being inside of Ubi I knew that I couldn't pull anything to fix SH5 so I perceived SHO as a new plate, esp. from a new team that had nothing to do with the issues of SH3/4/5 which are caused by us in Ubi Ro. Maybe they could do it right?

After all, I did try to get the "always-on DRM" out of SH5 every month after release and never achieved anything.

Anyway, can't stay and chat longer, my kid is getting baptized tomorrow and still have some stuff to fix for that.

Think of SHO as a standalone project centered on MP interaction. Try it if you will, could be interesting but I have to see it. I don't think you'll get anyone to give you the code for SH3/4/5 in an official form or even do another patch for those.

Spoken by a man with a good deal of moral character and integrity....hope the baptism goes exceedingly well my friend.

Still awaiting that drink we never shared/enjoyed at Houston Airport

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Still awaiting that drink we never shared/enjoyed at Houston Airport

Couldn't steal a Limo I presume.

[Dowly]

Who knows, it might actually be good. The periscope shot reminds me a lot of Silent Service.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by privateer

Couldn't steal a Limo I presume.

Could have and would have but it would be too big to get into the plane home

[Hinrich Schwab]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Being inside of Ubi I knew that I couldn't pull anything to fix SH5...

After all, I did try to get the "always-on DRM" out of SH5 every month after release and never achieved anything.

This is the root of the ire many people have with Ubi, now. As you were the head of the development team responsible for SH3, 4 and 5, if you could not convince the executives to allow you and your team to make the changes that would make the Subsim crowd happy, it simply proves that the executives of Ubisoft do not care about the hardcore sim players.

I cannot hold that against you and your (former) team. The people in the corporate offices are responsible for this. I personally see SHO as a poor attempt to cash in on the MMO craze. The execs at Ubisoft refuse to see that the hardcore subsim player is what makes the Silent Hunter franchise work. Ubi execs have sent all the signals that they want a MMO that will make money with zero effort.

The reaction would not have been so bad had it not been so blatant that the executives dropped support for SH5 like a ton of bricks. Ubisoft executives have repeatedly proven that they do not care about the gamers that have made this franchise as successful as it was. I see no reason to put any faith in them now with this new project simply because I must rely on the mod community to fix the Silent Hunter 5.

It's only going to get them money if you buy crap.
Play the heck out of it but don't buy anything.


I'd bet it meets a quick demise if everyone did that!

[Julhelm]

It's a publicly traded corporation. And publicly traded corporations are only obligated to their shareholders. But they generally pay well when you work for them.