Joe Biden on the bin Laden raid

[vienna]

I'm not the one making personal accusations here Vienna. Many people believe that Palin did actually say that. You are just perpetuating it and since apparently you know better then it can be seen as a deliberate perpetuation not a joke like you are now trying to claim.

Actually, I think far more people know Palin actually didn't make the remark and do know it is a joke. If I am perpetuating anything, I am perpetuating a joke; kind of like any one who takes Palin seriously...

Biden: elected 6 times to the Senate (15th longest serving at time of resignation); member and Chaiman of the Foreign Relations Committee; Chairman of the Judiciary Committee --- yeah, a real moron to have achieved all that...

McCain: naval aviator (lots of non-leaders there); requested a combat assignment (could have had a cushy desk job); former POW who refused to be released early if his fellow POWs weren't also released (by doing so, also refused to profit from his status as the son of a 4 -star admiral; 2 terms in the House, elected 4 times to the Senate; Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee; Chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee; Chairman of International Republican Institute...

Yeah, too bad he had no leadership experience and abilities...

Tempermental? Yeah, he is that; but no President can ever just "push the button". Referring back to Nixon and Watergate, as Nixon deteriorated, he at one point gave indications he might seek to "push the button"; Secretary of State Kissinger used his authority to order that any military orders issued by the President had to be run thriough his office for co-approval. The levels of checks and re-checks make it very highly unlikely any one is going to wake up in the morning and unilaterally start WW3...

Maybe we need tempermental; I recall the great effect JFK unleasing the cold wrath of his Attorney-General brother Bobby on the representatives of the USSR during the Cuban Missle Crisis. There are times when "Quiet Diplomacy" is not the best solution...

[Takeda Shingen]

I like you vienna and I admire your moxy, but you do know you're posting in a troll thread, don't you? Don't expect much in the way of discourse. At least not honest discourse.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I like you vienna and I admire your moxy, but you do know you're posting in a troll thread, don't you? Don't expect much in the way of discourse. At least not honest discourse.

Are you speaking as a moderator mister moderator?

[Takeda Shingen]

QED

EDIT: And yes, I am speaking as a moderator. This is a troll thread--posted to inflame the temperment. If you are somehow uncomfortable with the label, I would suggest that you look to your own behavior. If you would like to attack me personally, I would be happy to respond with appropriate official action.

The Management

[vienna]

I like you vienna and I admire your moxy, but you do know you're posting in a troll thread, don't you? Don't expect much in the way of discourse. At least not honest discourse.

Thanks Takeda, I was fairly certain that was the case. I was just enjoying a bit of a battle of wits against a poorly armed opponent. I was just sort of curious to see how far he would go...

BTW, I very much enjoy your posts, too; also liking the "Takeda Shingen" forum name; aren't you worried about a "Tokugawa Ieyasu" joing the forum?...

[August]

Nice way to avoid the point. Good to know where you stand though.

[August]

Originally Posted by vienna

Actually, I think far more people know Palin actually didn't make the remark and do know it is a joke. If I am perpetuating anything, I am perpetuating a joke; kind of like any one who takes Palin seriously...

Biden: elected 6 times to the Senate (15th longest serving at time of resignation); member and Chaiman of the Foreign Relations Committee; Chairman of the Judiciary Committee --- yeah, a real moron to have achieved all that...

McCain: naval aviator (lots of non-leaders there); requested a combat assignment (could have had a cushy desk job); former POW who refused to be released early if his fellow POWs weren't also released (by doing so, also refused to profit from his status as the son of a 4 -star admiral; 2 terms in the House, elected 4 times to the Senate; Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee; Chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee; Chairman of International Republican Institute...

Yeah, too bad he had no leadership experience and abilities...

Tempermental? Yeah, he is that; but no President can ever just "push the button". Referring back to Nixon and Watergate, as Nixon deteriorated, he at one point gave indications he might seek to "push the button"; Secretary of State Kissinger used his authority to order that any military orders issued by the President had to be run thriough his office for co-approval. The levels of checks and re-checks make it very highly unlikely any one is going to wake up in the morning and unilaterally start WW3...

Maybe we need tempermental; I recall the great effect JFK unleasing the cold wrath of his Attorney-General brother Bobby on the representatives of the USSR during the Cuban Missle Crisis. There are times when "Quiet Diplomacy" is not the best solution...

Vienna, ignoring the moderator troll i addressed above this post for a minute.

Legislative experience is not the same thing as executive experience. It is a completely different type of job.

Of the four candidates in the 2008 election only two of them had any executive experience at all. That was McCain and Palin. And neither of them had really much of that unless you put much stock the leadership skills required to be governor of Alaska or Aircraft Commander as preparation for POTUS.