Connecticut Senator Says Facebook Passwords Should Not Be Sought By Employers

Platapus · 03-23-12, 12:46 PM

There is talk (thankfully just talk at this point) that in the future, for security clearances, an applicant will have to disclose all online personas (just user names, not passwords).

Asking for passwords is completely unreasonable though.

Penguin · 03-23-12, 02:40 PM

If I was an employer, I'd ask the same question.
If the candidate would comply with my wish, I'd tell him to get lost!

Would you really trust someone with your company secrets who is willing to give away his right of privacy in a job interview? If they tell anything even without financial compansation, only because of a prospect for a job, you could probably buy Coca Cola's recipe from them for a bubble gum.

August · 03-23-12, 04:14 PM

Recently one of my former students posted this on his facebook wall:

"Sometimes I only reason I get up in the morning is to get stoned".

Now while I share the concerns of folks here about the constant erosion of privacy in modern society I can't really blame an employer for wanting to know these things.

Stealhead · 03-23-12, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Recently one of my former students posted this on his facebook wall:

"Sometimes I only reason I get up in the morning is to get stoned".

Now while I share the concerns of folks here about the constant erosion of privacy in modern society I can't really blame an employer for wanting to know these things.

How does one know that he is being serious or is his joking around.

Maybe he is making a reference to the stresses of daily life in a joking manner and means get stoned by someone (a stoning,stones thrown at him figuratively speaking).

He would have to have some more obvious 4:20 and have a picture of him with a spliff or a bag of weed in his profile for me to verify that he is a pot head and there are plenty of
dummies doing that.

Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.

Takeda Shingen · 03-23-12, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.

Crap. Time to change my forum password.

TLAM Strike · 03-24-12, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Besides why do they need to gain passwords most people use 12345 anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Crap. Time to change my forum password.

Tak are you really the president of Syria?

soopaman2 · 03-24-12, 03:51 PM

My wife had to sign a form at her job stating she would not talk bad about the company on social media.

I won't say the name, but will say they are a multinational corporation with interests in Europe, UK, and America.

She was appalled by it. I gave her the cynical George Orwell, "I told ya so", I usually give with stuff like this.

So if this guy gets his way, how can he regulate a corp. based in the Netherlands, or even worse China?

Big Corps will tell our government to go play with ourselves....And they will. No matter how much mock outrage.

This is election year bullcrap.

August · 03-23-12, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

He would have to have some more obvious 4:20 and have a picture of him with a spliff or a bag of weed in his profile for me to verify that he is a pot head and there are plenty of dummies doing that.

Well I think if you ever met this kid Stealhead it would be pretty obvious that he was being serious.

I used to have to go wake him up after lunch each day because he'd be zonked out from partying all night. More than once the smell that rushes out when he opened the door brought me back to the 1970's!

Besides it's not so much the drug use, although that is unacceptable too it's the lack of discretion. The way an employer would see it is if he's stupid enough to post something like that online, open to all i might add - no friendship or password needed, then he's probably also stupid enough to say something like it in front of a customer.

These Communications industries send their employees into peoples homes, they work in hospitals and pharmacies and airports. Such talk, even if joking, could cause the company big headaches if the wrong person heard it. At very least it could mean lost accounts. Customers, especially commercial ones, have no problem dropping vendors because one of their employees said something stupid like that.

Platapus · 03-23-12, 08:32 PM

We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

mookiemookie · 03-23-12, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

I'd say it's happening now. If I were interviewing someone under the age of 40 and they didn't have some form of social network account, I'd be suspicious.

August · 03-23-12, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you?

Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts.

How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence?

Could this happen within say 10 years?

I would say it's already happening. Unless you are of a certain age claims of not having a facebook account is likely to be seen by an employer as trying to hide something.

Oberon · 03-23-12, 02:46 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2374963/

mookiemookie · 03-23-12, 03:42 PM

Now Facebook's weighing in on the issue, saying they may sue firms who request passwords:

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...-passwords.ars

Facebook's a scumbag company, but it's good to see them do something in their user's best interests for once.

Pisces · 03-23-12, 04:03 PM

Can I have access to the company's financial system first to make sure my pay for next year is secured?

This is just absurd!

Takeda Shingen · 03-23-12, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pisces

Can I have access to the company's financial system first to make sure my pay for next year is secured?

I was thinking along those lines as well. If we want full, and I mean full disclosure, then let's have full disclosure.

03-23-12, 12:46 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,399 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	There is talk (thankfully just talk at this point) that in the future, for security clearances, an applicant will have to disclose all online personas (just user names, not passwords). Asking for passwords is completely unreasonable though. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Recently one of my former students posted this on his facebook wall: "Sometimes I only reason I get up in the morning is to get stoned". Now while I share the concerns of folks here about the constant erosion of privacy in modern society I can't really blame an employer for wanting to know these things. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	My wife had to sign a form at her job stating she would not talk bad about the company on social media. I won't say the name, but will say they are a multinational corporation with interests in Europe, UK, and America. She was appalled by it. I gave her the cynical George Orwell, "I told ya so", I usually give with stuff like this. So if this guy gets his way, how can he regulate a corp. based in the Netherlands, or even worse China? Big Corps will tell our government to go play with ourselves....And they will. No matter how much mock outrage. This is election year bullcrap. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

03-23-12, 08:32 PM	#9
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,399 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	We had a discussion about this at work. It is becoming more common for potential employers to "google" prospective employees. As social networks become more popular, how soon do you think it will take before NOT having an internet presence can count against you? Just like today if you ran across someone who did not have a phone (cell or land line) you might be a bit surprised. Or how about E-mail? I know I am a bit surprised when I meet people who have no E-mail accounts. How soon will it take before people will just assume that you are hiding something if you don't have an overt Internet social network presence? Could this happen within say 10 years? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Now Facebook's weighing in on the issue, saying they may sue firms who request passwords: http://arstechnica.com/business/news...-passwords.ars Facebook's a scumbag company, but it's good to see them do something in their user's best interests for once. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

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Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	If I was an employer, I'd ask the same question. If the candidate would comply with my wish, I'd tell him to get lost! Would you really trust someone with your company secrets who is willing to give away his right of privacy in a job interview? If they tell anything even without financial compansation, only because of a prospect for a job, you could probably buy Coca Cola's recipe from them for a bubble gum.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2374963/

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Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Can I have access to the company's financial system first to make sure my pay for next year is secured? This is just absurd! __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

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