What is the reason, for a war against Iran ?

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

honestly, I thought most of it was hogwash, but some of it was really thought provoking. especially the part about united 93. t is true, a 757 is a large aircraft...and it was vaporized without a fire AFAIK and no fuel residue found.

The problem with truthers is that expect a plane crash in a field to look like this....



A plane is made of thousands of parts. When it impacts nose first with ground it tends to disintegrate into a lot of small unrecognizable parts.

Plus, they duck obvious follow-up questions like...if the plane didn't crash what happened to it?

After that what happened to all the passengers and crew that were aboard?

Why stage a fake crash in a field? Why not at another famous American landmark?

If you want people to think an aircraft was going to crash into the capital and the aircraft that is supposed to have done it is missing along with all the crew and passengers, why not crash it into the capital instead of some anonymous stretch of Pennsylvania? Why not work the this staged emergency up to the hilt with all four planes?

[gimpy117]

oh im studying to get my A&P I know how many parts there are in a 757, something like 3,000,000 or so if you count rivets. But it's a large plane to just disappear like that. not saying it didn't happen, but the weirdest thing i wonder about is the lack of fuel found

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

oh im studying to get my A&P I know how many parts there are in a 757, something like 3,000,000 or so if you count rivets. But it's a large plane to just disappear like that

It's my understanding that tons of debris were excavated from crater. I think a lot of the problem is that the aerial pictures of the crater didn't fit most people's idea of what a jet crash looks like with oily smoking wreckage and a vague wrecked aircraft shape. Kind of reminds me of Apollo disbelievers who think the moon landings were fake because the awkward looking lunar module didn't fit their mental picture of what a spaceship looks like.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

It's my understanding that tons of debris were excavated from crater. I think a lot of the problem is that the aerial pictures of the crater didn't fit most people's idea of what a jet crash looks like with oily smoking wreckage and a vague wrecked aircraft shape. Kind of reminds me of Apollo disbelievers who think the moon landings were fake because the awkward looking lunar module didn't fit their mental picture of what a spaceship looks like.

well yeah tons of debirs would fit with such a massive A/C at such speed

[Stealhead]

I would trust the opinion of someone trained in the studying air accidents for the FAA over someone studying A&P I assume this is aviation? could you put in full words what you are studying please? I am pretty sure that is not specifically related to the study of air accidents.At least A friend of mine went to Emery Riddle and studied accident specifically and recvied a BA in it.

Have you seen the FAA investigation reports on this accident to allow you dispute with reputable evidence.Which to satisfy me would be a person with many years experience investigating air accidents.

Also do not forget that this plane struck the ground at a very high rate of speed much higher most likely than any previous crash involving an aircraft of this size.

If one takes into consideration the scattering effects of most air accidents at much lower speeds they tend to scatter wreckage fairly far so it seems logical to me for an aircraft striking the ground at a high rate of speed and diving for the ground (where as in most crashes the crew is trying to avoid this) it makes sense for most of the wreckage to go into the ground.

Of course it is always possible that one of TLAMs doubles might have managed to brain wash me maybe he did and I don't remember it because I am now a manchurian candidate.