Ship Lengths? (TMO & RSRDC)

[DrBeast]

Originally Posted by Dellinger

And one other thing while I'm here...
Since was trying to find out lenghts, I ran into a very large thread on the OTC mod. Tried reading some of it but not going to read all the pages... so in brief can anyone tell me if this mod is now compatible with TMO and RSRDC? The pages I made it through sounded as if it was not going to jive.

Thanks for the feedback!

Nope, not yet, though CaptainScurvy might eventually roll out a compatible version - not an easy task, since he has to go through ALL the Data/Sea units in each mod and make his adjustments, among other things.

[CapnScurvy]

Just happened to be grazing through the forum before turning off the 'ol puter and read your post.

I plan to release both a TMO 2.5 and a RSRDCv502 version of Optical Targeting Correction this weekend. Maybe tomorrow, we'll see how the bundling of the compressed files go and getting them to upload onto GameFront.

I'll be posting on the OTC thread when their up.

Yes, as DrBeast said, going through just the Sea folder with RSRDC is daunting. What makes it worse is there are three or four RSRDC ships that are listed with a different "type" than what TMO uses, which has a couple of different "types" than what the stock game has. Why can't we all just get along?!!

The reason its critical to get this stuff right is a CTD will occur anytime you leaf through the Recognition Manual and come up on the ship that doesn't have the right "type" listed. Nobody wants that. Especially the guy that says, "This mod is compatible with another".

[hcs53]

Great, thanks for all the work.

[Dellinger]

CapnScurvy,

Very nice of you, thanks!

However, now that I finally found the ship lengths in the sea folder ( didn't think of that originally...) I just became more confused.

And this question is posed to anyone- Which takes precedence in regards to ship length if one is running TMO and RSRDC? The data from TMO or RSRDC?

Also, if the OTC mod ends up working for a TMO/RSRDC game, then which set of data takes precedence when talking about ship lenghts?

Sorry if my questions are elementary.

[DrBeast]

Originally Posted by Dellinger

CapnScurvy,

Very nice of you, thanks!

However, now that I finally found the ship lengths in the sea folder ( didn't think of that originally...) I just became more confused.

And this question is posed to anyone- Which takes precedence in regards to ship length if one is running TMO and RSRDC? The data from TMO or RSRDC?

Also, if the OTC mod ends up working for a TMO/RSRDC game, then which set of data takes precedence when talking about ship lenghts?

Sorry if my questions are elementary.

Rule of thumb is: whenever two (or more) mods modify the same parameters, the mod loaded LAST with JSGME will always take precedence.

[Dellinger]

Ah... (hat tip to Dr. Beast)

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Dellinger

Also, if the OTC mod ends up working for a TMO/RSRDC game, then which set of data takes precedence when talking about ship lenghts?

As DrBeast points out, the last file "activated" in JSGME is the one the game uses to supplement the stock game files. A file of the same name, but being activated earlier in the order, will be overwritten by the latter. That's one reason I've never taken the approach of loading up my game with mods that I don't have an idea what they change or overwrite. Just not a good thing to do.

To answer your specific question TMO, RSRDC, and many other mods, don't have the ship lengths used. Yes your right, the stock game lists ShipLength=xxxxx in the .cfg files but its not used. Never has been. The developers never got around to implementing the information from the .cfg file completely. The mast heights ARE used to calculate the stadimeter findings with the determined degree of angle to figure range. The ship lengths were never put to use. As I checked the lengths to the corrected telemeter divisions with OTC I discovered the listed lengths are fairly accurate. They may be off just a couple of meters, but that's really good compared to the stock mast heights that have been found to be 20 or more meters off.

Through OTC, I measured each mast height and ship length and added the corrected measurements to the Recognition Manual (again, this is not done with the stock game, TMO, RSRDC, etc.). So OTC really isn't overwriting previous game files; ship lengths were never part of the game. After all, why provide ship dimensions when the scopes don't have an accurate way of measuring from point A to point B?

[CapnScurvy]

Dellinger, and to anyone interested. I've released my two latest Optical Targeting Correction mods version 1.5. These two are compatible with the TMO 2.5 mod and the RSRDCv502 that goes with TMO.

The links are below.

Optical Targeting Correction 1.5 for TMO 2.5
March, 2012
This edition of OTC 1.5 is compatible with "TriggerMaru Overhaul 2.5"



Optical Targeting Correction 1.5 for RSRDCv502
March, 2012
This edition of OTC 1.5 is compatible with RSRDC v502 and its Patch (the Run Silent, Run Deep Campaign mod that's made for TMO)


Both have the corrected ship lenghts and reference heights in the Recognition Manual.

A rundown of the OTC 1.5 changes can be found HERE.