What greene energy can't do.

[yubba]

If you are reading this right now, it was brought to you by oil or oil refined products, maybe the electric that powers your computer and before you say a word I have acouple of words for you insulators, power lines and cords , the plastic's in the chair that you are sitting in, the plastic that's in your computer, and in the carpet at your feet, the clothes on your back, and in that nice white food box that you have in the kitchen, lots of oil involved there, and before you demonize oil companies you better look around and see how good you have it. If you hate big oil so much, you should jump out of your clothes and get out of that house, that has so much oil in it, that it will make your head spin, and go huddle under a tree. Oil, it isn't all about filling your tank. and how much oil is in all that birthcontrol stuff, no oil no birthcontrol crisis. And since I use to work on heavy equipment there is nothing yet made to replace the diesel engine and all it's applications.

[mookiemookie]

Keep sucking that oil pipe.

[yubba]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Keep sucking that oil pipe.

you wouldn't have pipe without oil, all that plastic pipe, and what is plastic made from, you can say it, oil see it wasn't that hard. Another thing that greene energy can't do is, stop killing, birds, hawks, owls, eagles, and bats, in the blades of those windmills, I guess the greeney's didn't see that come-ing and got their panties all into a bunch over this. Wouldn't have panties with out oil.

[Reece]

My computer runs off a 1.5kw solar power grid, panels mounted on the roof!

[Sailor Steve]

Yubba, are you really that disconnected from your own self? As the old adage goes, it's not what you say but how you say it. I agree with much of what you believe, but you say it in such a manner that you make all conservatives look bad.

You need to learn how to communicate rather than just pontificate. If pontificating is all you know, you might get your point across better if you at least learned how to write the language properly.

As it is, you're an embarrassment to your own side.

[razark]

So, when the oil is gone, what happens to that disposable society lifestyle you describe?

[Stealhead]

Henry Ford had most the interior of a car made out of hemp in late 30s you can make things like plastic without oil.Once we relied on whale oil for many things we over came the need for it though.

As it is, you're an embarrassment to your own side.

Depends how you look at it.
Look at it for the positive aspects it shows for the way out off planet far fringe of the raving loonies......in comparison he makes Alex Jones look like a sane and rational person with good points and a coherent arguement.

[Gorduz]

Yes you are right plastics should probably be made from oil but this does not mean that electricity/propulsion should be made by it...

Reducing oil and energy consumption does not mean going back to the middle ages...(Though it might indeed reduce our standard of living somewhat(new iphone every 5 years instead of 3)).

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

@yubba: That greener energy thing is not about completely disbanding use of oil - only about stopping burning of it. If there is viable alternative available then burning oil is waste of resources. That is primary reason why I support research on greener energy sources. Also greener energy is not only about windmills (which are nice but not suitable for replacement of oil) but I'm sure you already knew this.

Btw that "greener" sounds terrible I personally prefer "renewable".

EDIT: Also yubba I agree with some of your opininons and disagree with most. However could you please consider HOW you present you opinion? You often sound like a person who escaped from loony bin - that is not good for credibility.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by yubba

you wouldn't have pipe without oil

Metal pipelines no longer exist then?

[Rockstar]

Well, I can understand some of what he's saying here. Just complaints and finger pointing but nobody it seems is willing to give up or do what it takes and use the alternative energy sources available right now. It always someone else needs to do it. Until then I'll just complain just like Yubba and others.

Reece I suspect is the only one supplementing energy from the city grid.



So instead of going out and buying a new computer, HDTV, iPad, or subsim game. Try brushing up on solar, wind energy sources and how to to tie it in to your household grid via inverter. You don't have to wait for government or need a licensed contractor to do it for you. The equipment is out there and available to anyone.

Metal pipelines no longer exist then?

But Oberon metal is a lie, so are wooden chairs and wool carpets, there is only oil especially in your clothes if you are in a bad 1970s fashion warp or do your clothes shopping at walmart.
But don't forget birth control, maybe while someone is huddling under a tree they can take the plant juice and make some by inventing a revolutionary new process


but hey lets.......

And since I use to work on heavy equipment

Most heavy equipment comes with the stipulation that you cannot operate it with impaired faculties, is that why you no longer operate it?

there is nothing yet made to replace the diesel engine and all it's applications.

Yes dear, go to the quack and get a new prescription for dried frog pills.
A diesel engine is just an engine that is powered by diesel yubba.

You often sound like a person who escaped from loony bin - that is not good for credibility.

krasnyi, what do you mean "often"?

Rockstar, don't forget geo-thermal and hydro. OK hydro isn't much good for most domestic but geo is very affordable now.

[MH]

Yabba daba dooo

All green

[yubba]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Metal pipelines no longer exist then?

How do get metal ore out of the ground without oil I guess you like running a shovel. Greene energy can't seem to make it on its own without tons of taxpayer money, I'm not against greene but let's be smart about this. You destroy the oil industry alot of other stuff goes with it.