Questions about RSRDC

[Armistead]

You will not get as many messages with RSRD as you do with stock or TMO. When enemy groups are built, you have a value that you can set that determines if it will show up as a message and contact on your screen, with stock many groups are set to show, so you'll see a lot of contacts show up on your map, RSRD not near as many. RSRD also doesn't include all those war messages, subs lost at sea, etc., they're a few mods that add some back, but I haven't tried them.

You will see more contacts pop up later war with RSRD.

[I'm goin' down]

(I knew I could bring you to the surface when I started yakking about RSRDC!)

Check out this site

Pacific War Animated

It has the when and where for a lot if not all the major sea battles of WW2.

Urge

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

(I knew I could bring you to the surface when I started yakking about RSRDC!)

Hehe, I don't play RSRD right now, when I play I enjoy TMO alone.
Yea, I miss all the historical traffic, but TMO traffic has much better zig patterns and speeds, not to mention I've added a crap load of ships and traffic to it, so it's fun for now.

[I'm goin' down]

http://combinedfleet.com/battles/

[stegotgame]

Originally Posted by Armistead

You will not get as many messages with RSRD as you do with stock or TMO. When enemy groups are built, you have a value that you can set that determines if it will show up as a message and contact on your screen, with stock many groups are set to show, so you'll see a lot of contacts show up on your map, RSRD not near as many. RSRD also doesn't include all those war messages, subs lost at sea, etc., they're a few mods that add some back, but I haven't tried them.

You will see more contacts pop up later war with RSRD.

Thank you. This was exactly the answer i was looking for. I just didn't know if it was RSRDC that made the change....or if it had something to do with me updating to 1.5 at the same time. So really, playing with less reports is more realistic maybe? Did skippers in WW2 have many transmissions coming in telling them about war updates / battles that were taking place around the Pacific?

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by stegotgame

Thank you. This was exactly the answer i was looking for. I just didn't know if it was RSRDC that made the change....or if it had something to do with me updating to 1.5 at the same time. So really, playing with less reports is more realistic maybe? Did skippers in WW2 have many transmissions coming in telling them about war updates / battles that were taking place around the Pacific?

Well, it's hard to determine if it's less realistic as we lack several real factors due to code, certainly more realistic than stock where contacts constantly show. Obvious we had the benefit of reading Japanese code and know many times where convoys were and if subs were near they would be sent a message and placed near the position, but messages weren't sent to every sub, just those in or near that area that could attack.

Seldom was anything mentioned of upcoming battles if we had the info, the need was to protect the fact we could read the jap code, so skippers were often in the dark to as why they were where they were, but they caught on later war and many figured we were reading their code.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Well, it's hard to determine if it's less realistic as we lack several real factors due to code, certainly more realistic than stock where contacts constantly show. Obvious we had the benefit of reading Japanese code and know many times where convoys were and if subs were near they would be sent a message and placed near the position, but messages weren't sent to every sub, just those in or near that area that could attack.

Seldom was anything mentioned of upcoming battles if we had the info, the need was to protect the fact we could read the jap code, so skippers were often in the dark to as why they were where they were, but they caught on later war and many figured we were reading their code.

Actually, it wasn't until the battle for Midway that we had any kind of grasp over the Japanese code, thanks exclusively to Commander Joseph Rochefort, whom Nimitz decided to keep on active duty after the post Pearl Harbor naval purge. Still, shortly after Midway (I don't recall the exact timeframe), Yamamoto suspected that the IJN code may have been compromised and subsequently changed the code (according to some accounts, others say the code change was a matter of protocol/course).
As far as the fleetboats were concerned, I have read accounts that say the early war intelligence was often incorrect or unreliable. Now this is probably not even taken into account in the Stock version and I'm not sure if the mods address this, but the unreliability of these reports was cause enough for me to ignore most of the "contact reports" unless I already knew it was trustworthy.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Actually, it wasn't until the battle for Midway that we had any kind of grasp over the Japanese code, thanks exclusively to Commander Joseph Rochefort, whom Nimitz decided to keep on active duty after the post Pearl Harbor naval purge. Still, shortly after Midway (I don't recall the exact timeframe), Yamamoto suspected that the IJN code may have been compromised and subsequently changed the code (according to some accounts, others say the code change was a matter of protocol/course).
As far as the fleetboats were concerned, I have read accounts that say the early war intelligence was often incorrect or unreliable. Now this is probably not even taken into account in the Stock version and I'm not sure if the mods address this, but the unreliability of these reports was cause enough for me to ignore most of the "contact reports" unless I already knew it was trustworthy.

If you get a contact in game it's realiable, anytime a group is built in the ME you can choose if the contact will show or not, stock shows many, RSRD less, but you get more later on. Still, subs were given lot's of contacts on groups once we got the code down, I often wonder if RSRD should have more, because over all you don't get many of them.

[I'm goin' down]

I like searching the internet for the battles, and then checking to see if RSRDC programmed them. So far, RSRDC is on the money, including two carriers that entered the Coral Sea at 3 a.m. during that battle. I thought it was great!!

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Armistead

..., anytime a group is built in the ME you can choose if the contact will show or not,...

I don't understand. What do you mean by, "you can choose"?

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

I don't understand. What do you mean by, "you can choose"?

Well, I use mostly the batch editor, but with the ME or batch when you build a group you have settings to choose if you want that group to show up as a "contact" during the game. Simply, when you get contact reports for the battle of PS you'll get several contact reports of the groups moving giving you location, that's because it was set to show as a contact when the group was built. They're some other factors you can set as well, probablity, priority, etc..