And yet gasoline prices rise

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Hanomag

Well maybe we will get EMP'd or hit with an asteroid and then there will be no need for fuel or electricity...

Till that happens its a big sh**t sandwich ... so dig in!!! MMMM MM Good!!

Not too worried about an EMP or asteroid really.The only EMP that could wipe out the entire worlds power grid can only come form the sun and such events are exceedingly rare and the next known "close call" from an asteroid is not until 2029 ans that one should only come between earth and our farther out satellites.Fossil fuel getting low and then running out is an event that is 100% going to happen the ramifications of we actually can have a control over if we choose to do so.Of course it seems to be human nature for some reason to ignore the most obvious danger sometimes.

Why eat a sheeeet sandwich when you do not have to?At the same time mother nature tends to handle things from time to time and I dont mean to sound inhumane but there are far too many humans on earth for the planet to sustain us all so something is going to come along and reduce our numbers and that is unavoidable and it seems bad if you are the one to die from some pandemic but in the end that is natures way keeping things in check.

[Harald_Lange]

Try running at ahead one-third, save bags of fuel that way!

[jumpy]

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

[STEED]

The gas...sorry petrol war has started.

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

lol
Well, I've had one or two jobs with that kind of commute mileage here in the UK. Hell, some of our contracts managers used to do almost a hundred miles each way to head office 4 days a week.
You chaps don't have a monopoly on the work commute you know. Tbh, if you have to travel more than 90 minutes each way, you should move or get a better job.

Having said all of that, if you work an office job, commuting is so last century... it's only jobsworth managers who are determined to prolong the stoneage; when everyone has decent internet connections, why can't I do my job from home any less efficiently than in an office that I have to spend almost an hour to get to each morning, burning precious time alive that I will never have refunded, not to mention the fuel to et there... instead of starting early because my computer is only in the next room at home?
Something is seriously wrong with the business model imo.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by jumpy

lol
Well, I've had one or two jobs with that kind of commute mileage here in the UK. Hell, some of our contracts managers used to do almost a hundred miles each way to head office 4 days a week.

Hold that thought....

Don't you folks have mass transportation? Trains, subway's and such?

We don't have those in any quantity to speak of.

[jumpy]

^^

Sure we do, but outside of say, London or maybe Birmingham, they're practically useless if you have to get anywhere by a specific time. Plus getting in and out of my home city on the bus costs about the same as paying for fuel in a car every week, with the added bonus of being late every day.

The Tube in london is great. But it's over a hundred miles away from me, so it's not much use

Public transport in this country is a joke.
Over priced buses and decrepit railways, which are over priced too... It's all that privatisation you know.
We went from having an unreliable transport service that was cheap (read government subsidised - like germany and france and most of europe do with theirs), to having an unreliable transport service that is now prohibitively expensive for a lot of people.
Owning your own vehicle and fuelling it is getting that way now too; steady rises in insurance premiums, road tax and fuel duty - lets be clear: were it not for each and every government here adding 2/3's of the cost of every litre of fuel at the pump as tax/fuel duty, I wouldn't have half as much to lambaste as I do.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

We don't have those in any quantity to speak of.

Maybe not down in Happy Valley, but up here in the real Utah I can ride the train and bus all over town. Until 20:00 hours, when they shut down. And the one I need doesn't run on Sundays. And it takes me two hours to get anywhere I need to go. And they don't match well, so I have a mile-and-a-half walk home from band practice.

But we have them! So there!

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

My dad's usual commute http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vi...ra=ltm&t=m&z=8

[Jimbuna]

Looks like the same route Ducimus posted

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Looks like the same route Ducimus posted

Better?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

Your petrol prices aren't any higher than ours. Your government, on the other hand, adds five times the amount that ours does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_tax

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Your government, on the other hand, adds five times the amount that ours does.

ya rly

I think I already mentioned fuel duty and its place here in the UK.

lets be clear: were it not for each and every government here adding 2/3's of the cost of every litre of fuel at the pump as tax/fuel duty, I wouldn't have half as much to lambaste as I do

I hate quoting myself.