Falklands 1982 vs 2012

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

A second Falklands war would actually be a noble undertaking for America to help its British friends.

Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine? NO EUROPEAN CONTROL IN THIS HEMISPHERE!

Definitely just kidding, but it is an interesting question.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine? NO EUROPEAN CONTROL IN THIS HEMISPHERE!

Definitely just kidding, but it is an interesting question.

You are referring to Manifest Destiny?

I believe that only applied to continental US (what we call the lower 48)

at that time France, Spain and England held claims in the N American new world.

An excuse to whack indians. But I digress.
South America has always been an interesting location, due to the attention given to them, and how much they hate us.

The Mexican cartels have more power than the USA in south America, than the gringos do.

MS13 gang. worth a googling.

[Stealhead]

The Monroe Doctrine doctrine was the ultimate expression of Manifest Destiny which applied to what we consider today to be North America of which a large portion was under the control of Mexico many people seem to forget this fact for some reason.

Ever since it was put fourth in 1823 we have more or less followed it to this day
most Latin American nations are safely in the United Sates pocket and that is how we like it Venezuela is just an annoying blister like Cuba.The US says jump almost every Latin American leader says "How high senior?".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

Why do you think they invaded Panama back in 1989? They wanted to rid of Manuel Noriega not because he was involved in drugs they could have cared less but because he was going to allow the next major refurbishing project on the Panama Canal go to a none US firm Manuel Noriega was not going to play by our rules.


MS13 is not a Mexican gang it originated in El Salvador and is mostly made up of El Salvadorians they and Mexican gangs are huge rivals they hate each other the Mexican cartels deal with whoever controls the turf which is usually MS13 because they are the most violent and the Mexican cartels will employ Spanish speaking gangs though most of that "work" is in Mexico they go on a vacation so to speak MS13 goes where they can make money.

Actually most Latin Americans like or a are neutral towards Americans in my experience.The Cartels have power in Mexico and some parts of Central America the South is another Story all together.If you are in Columbia it is either the Colombian Government or FARC depending on what part of the country you are in same applies to most other nations to some degree.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

You are referring to Manifest Destiny?

No.

I believe that only applied to continental US (what we call the lower 48)

You believe wrongly. The paper specifically said the the US would step in to challenge any new European colonization anywhere in the Western Hemispher.

at that time France, Spain and England held claims in the N American new world.

Yes they did, and this part of the Wiki article answered my question:

Doctrine noted that the United States would neither interfere with existing European colonies...

An excuse to whack indians. But I digress.

And you digress in a bad direction. The Monroe Doctrine had nothing to do with the indians either.

[Marcantilan]

Argentina does not have the military capacity to retake the islands from UK.

UK does not have the military capacity to retake the islands from Argentina.

The military status quo will remain.

[Nicolas]

I live 45 km away from Buenos Aires, across the river. Argentina was in a military dictactorship at that time, kidnaps, censorship, soldiers in the streets, nights at home, etc. Now in democracy with a woman being president. They sure learned something from that war, and they do not have the military power and the people way of thinking is different now, the economy is more important than this. They are claiming the islands 'back', they are trying to put pressure, but in my opinion not even thinking to try an invasion or agression.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Marcantilan

UK does not have the military capacity to retake the islands from Argentina.

I heard on the radio some high ranking officer said the Falklands would fall if the airstrip was taken.


Personally this tit for tat exchange is a load of pigs swill on both sides.

[Jimbuna]

Hate to dissapoint but I doubt there will be any battle over the Falklands.

Britain is better prepared this time and having at least one sub on staion at all times means the Argentinians would have the same problem Hitler faced...getting across the pond.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Hate to dissapoint but I doubt there will be any battle over the Falklands.

Britain is better prepared this time and having at least one sub on staion at all times means the Argentinians would have the same problem Hitler faced...getting across the pond.

That was all bluff, of course it came to light after the war.

Both sides have acted like big baby's throwing there toys at each other. I can not comment on the Argentinian politicians but I can on ours, bunch of jerks the lot of them. Just watch Prime Ministers question time, just like kindergarten for spoiled little brats.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Hate to dissapoint but I doubt there will be any battle over the Falklands.

Britain is better prepared this time and having at least one sub on staion at all times means the Argentinians would have the same problem Hitler faced...getting across the pond.

They might not come by sea this time.



500 Royal Army regulars + about 225 local reservists vs about 560 Argentine Paratroopers in the first drop (they have a Brigade but lack the planes to drop them all at once).

It would be a hell of a fight.