Invincible Planes in GWX???

[teapot156]

I don't know guys, I'm reading this thread here and looking up some of these designs and I'm not sure if GWX models planes well.

Don't get me wrong, it's great and I love the hell out of it. It doesn't bother me that I can't kick the crap out of squadron after squadron of enemy bombers while watching the explosions and chomping on my cigar.

What really bothers me is the knowledge that when I fire a 20 mm gun at VERY close range and SEE the bullets hitting the cockpit, I'm not doing any damage. A 20 mm round is not going to be stopped by a piece of 8mm steel the size of a lunch box under the pilots butt or whatever. The 20 mm should end the party for the dumb pilot that is nose diving my position more than he needs to in order to take out the sub. It's more likely that the 37 mm was installed to complement the 20 mm because of the larger effective range and great destructive power of using flak shells.

Thats why im guessing there might be something wrong with the mods im using and maybe not GWX at all, it just seems too weird. Reread my first post, I shot this one bomber with everything I had. No not "shot at", I mean actually hit. Hit without effect.

And on the subject of armor, the most I can really find on planes being armored is these models having protection from 14mm or .50 cal ammunition which has a significant difference from 20 or even 37. A lot of these armored positions where critical areas where a stray round could destroy the entire plane or kill a crew member. They weren't made to actually TAKE fire.

[Deepmoc]

1, 2, or max 4 Pings with 20mm is the End of the Fun for any Plane.
That clearly true.

40mm or 37 a single Hit is enough
1 engined Planes comes apart with a such Shell und you can collect a Jigsaw Puzzle on the Water Surface..

Greetings

Moc

[Frenchy849]

Originally Posted by Deepmoc

1, 2, or max 4 Pings with 20mm is the End of the Fun for any Plane.
That clearly true.

40mm or 37 a single Hit is enough
1 engined Planes comes apart with a such Shell und you can collect a Jigsaw Puzzle on the Water Surface..

Greetings

Moc

Now,explain how B-17's came back home with several machine gun and 20mm shell impacts practically everywhere and even maybe a flak round or two,or even a ramming.
I tell you,I've seen a photo where the radio room was absolutely so ripped apart by a 150mm flak round that 4 men could fit in the hole,and still made it back home.
Or maybe you mean any smaller planes.
Typhoons could also take several 37mm shells in the fuselage without flinching...or maybe simply getting the radio fried.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by teapot156

Thats why im guessing there might be something wrong with the mods im using and maybe not GWX at all, it just seems too weird. Reread my first post, I shot this one bomber with everything I had. No not "shot at", I mean actually hit. Hit without effect.

No, there's something wrong with the way the game was made in the first place. As I think I said earlier, in the stock game you get attacked by dozens of planes and could shoot down a bunch of them before they finally got you. The armor values are for the whole aircraft, not individual parts. The only way to make it so one plane is dangerous was to up the armor value.

Talking about how protected the pilot may or may not have been is irrelevant. What is relevant is that single aircraft attacked u-boats and sank them. Sunderlands and especially B-24s were the bane of the u-boat.

The fact is that 250 u-boats were sunk by aircraft in WW2. They shot down a lot of planes as well, but the trade-off was never worth it.