[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0

[altoso99]

Hey still no answer to the lack of special missions and not getting new coning tower/paint through the war!! Any solution?

And now I have some problems with CTD, when I'm near or inside a harbor full of ships, when I go to deck/external view my I get CTD!!

Runing RFB2.0+patch+RSRDC for RFB+patch

[altoso99]

Originally Posted by altoso99

Hey still no answer to the lack of special missions and not getting new coning tower/paint through the war!! Any solution?

And now I have some problems with CTD, when I'm near or inside a harbor full of ships, when I go to deck/external view my I get CTD!!

Runing RFB2.0+patch+RSRDC for RFB+patch

Ok now are you ignoring me for being new and foreigner? Or am I the only one with these problems? Or are these problems known bugs that I don't know about because I didn't read some hidden readme? I read the RFB manual and I didn't find anything about my problems.

thanks

[Hitman]

Ok now are you ignoring me for being new and foreigner? Or am I the only one with these problems? Or are these problems known bugs that I don't know about because I didn't read some hidden readme? I read the RFB manual and I didn't find anything about my problems.

No need to be so sensitive

RFB is a great mod but work on it stopped long ago, and sadly there are not that many fleet boat fans around . And many of those play Trigger Maru, which is also a great mod.

What you report is something related to RSRD, as the campaign should assign you the special missions. But that will depend on boat/date/command you are operating for.

The boats that get most special missions are the Narwhal/Nautilus class, because they were actually so fat, slow and outdated, that they were soon relegated to those tasks. Get one of those in late 1942 or 1943, and you will almost only do special missions.

Good hunting

[Captain Wolf]

Originally Posted by altoso99

Ok now are you ignoring me for being new and foreigner? Or am I the only one with these problems? Or are these problems known bugs that I don't know about because I didn't read some hidden readme? I read the RFB manual and I didn't find anything about my problems.

thanks

Hi I have come across the same problem with the conning tower, was a sargo and i still had the 'bathtub' tower past the date when it should have been updated. Now in december 1942 it still hasn't, though i have just been given USS Gato itself with the 'bathtub' (though i can't remember when the refit should happen i don't think i have reached it yet). One thing though is that I think this is a problem with the game rather than with RFB, due to that with stock SH4 it was happening where like you I went through the entire war having never seen a refit.

On the special missions front i have just encounted my first with Gato on my first patrol with her to pick up downed pilots in the solumon's in janurary 1943, though its worth mentioning that i am with the task force that at the moment operates out of Brisbane Australia and don't quote me on this but I think that it is only the task forces that get the special mission (even though they seem very rare) while SubPac and the like only conduct anti-shipping.

Sorry for the wall of text and for the lack of any solution just info.

Captain Wolf

Runing RFB2.0
April 2010 patch
Latest RSRDC for RFB+patch

[fitzcarraldo]

Mate: I recommend you TMO 25, or TMO 25 with RSRDC. RFB is an "oldie"; TMO 25 is actualized...

Sorry but I don´t know about your problem.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[Hylander_1314]

There is an issue with refits, and it is a stock bug. Some of it, is in the upc files for the different boats, and the dates shown for the months of the year. There a long discussion about it on the TMO thread, and Ducimus changed all the months to reflect their proper length in days. As a for instance, February showed having 31 days, which is absolutely ludicrous.

The other issue, was with the point system required for upgrading. That had to be modded down, because people were going through the war with a Gato boat with a 1941 tower.

Lastly, if you can avoid it, try not to refuel and re-arm at all during your patrol. I can't remember what it does, but it was discovered (if memory serves) that refueling and re-arming caused something to discount your renown when you ended your patrol.

In my latest campaign, I can confirm this. I had a Tambor class boat and I would refuel / rearm, before entering the base at the end of the patrol, and I never was offered an upgrade for a boat, or given an upgraded tower.

So here it was, November of 43, 8 months after the Balao became available, and over a year after the Gato was available, and the time I did not refuel / re-arm, before entering the base at Perth - Fremantle I was offered a new boat. Had I kept doing the latter, I would have gone through the entire war with a 1941 style Tambor boat.

But even with the adjustment made to TMO, the upgrade issues for the boats, is still kind of buggy, but it is the best the modder could figure out.

[Captain Wolf]

Copy that I will bear these comments in mind. Thanks for the replies.

Captain Wolf

[stanger]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

There is an issue with refits, and it is a stock bug. Some of it, is in the upc files for the different boats, and the dates shown for the months of the year. There a long discussion about it on the TMO thread, and Ducimus changed all the months to reflect their proper length in days. As a for instance, February showed having 31 days, which is absolutely ludicrous.

The other issue, was with the point system required for upgrading. That had to be modded down, because people were going through the war with a Gato boat with a 1941 tower.

Lastly, if you can avoid it, try not to refuel and re-arm at all during your patrol. I can't remember what it does, but it was discovered (if memory serves) that refueling and re-arming caused something to discount your renown when you ended your patrol.

In my latest campaign, I can confirm this. I had a Tambor class boat and I would refuel / rearm, before entering the base at the end of the patrol, and I never was offered an upgrade for a boat, or given an upgraded tower.

So here it was, November of 43, 8 months after the Balao became available, and over a year after the Gato was available, and the time I did not refuel / re-arm, before entering the base at Perth - Fremantle I was offered a new boat. Had I kept doing the latter, I would have gone through the entire war with a 1941 style Tambor boat.

But even with the adjustment made to TMO, the upgrade issues for the boats, is still kind of buggy, but it is the best the modder could figure out.

This reminded me, that in my current career, 3rd with TMO, first with TMO+RSRD, I did get a refit to the Gato. I started with Sargo, after 3 patrols = game thinks it was 4 = I was given a Gato as usual with TMO (with changed upgrades classes to stock = much more sense), then my boat was upgraded with second CT (after 2 or 3 patrols, before the end of 1942, would need to check my patrols log), and then - beginning of 1943 - I was offered with Balao - accepted. So, the game didnt waited another 3 - 4 patrols to give me new boat = refit was a refit, new command - new command (if you get what I mean). Now, for this career, I did changed RankPatrolsUS in UPC.cfg from TMO's 4,6 to stock 4,5 - thinking that there might me a conflict when there is time (and right conditions) for a refit and new command offer the game will always choose new command except when those two dont 'happen' at the same time. Maybe its worth investigating, but maybe its RSRD that 'fixed' it, and if so, then the root of the problem might lay in Flotillas.upc file - only one changed by RSRD (other two cant have any influence on sub refits).

RFB has RankPatrolsUS set to 5, 5 ... I dont play RFB, but if people are having the same problem with RFB, and it has number of patrols between new commands offers and refits\rank advancement set this way... Someone would need to change those values to 4,6, and play the mod with it to confirm\refute the theory.

[Fish40]

Ironicaly enough, I just received a conning tower fairwater upgrade for my Tambor. It's Oct. 42'. Last patrol I turned down a new Gato because I want to try to stick it out in a Tambor. As a side note, I'm sad that this Mod is slowly but surely falling by the wayside. I wish someone could take up the torch and continue work, even if for minor updates. If I had any modding skills I'd give it a try. I've played this mod since it's beginning when Beery worked on it. I'd hate to see it become an afterthought

[stanger]

Maybe then its more of a problem with TMO where the mods settings causes the game to wait (for something) instead of giving an upgrade; and you know its should be available, but the game dont want to give it to you. It's not like subs refitting is completely disabled (Balao still can get its '44 upgrade - cause there is nothing else available) its the time between patrols needed is all messed up - that is my theory

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Fish40

As a side note, I'm sad that this Mod is slowly but surely falling by the wayside. I wish someone could take up the torch and continue work, even if for minor updates. If I had any modding skills I'd give it a try. I've played this mod since it's beginning when Beery worked on it. I'd hate to see it become an afterthought

I feel the same way. For some reason, there seem to be 10 modders working on SH 3 for every one on SH 4. And God knows, there is plenty in SH 4 that needs to be fixed.