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Old 02-01-12, 05:42 PM   #61
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I must ask though, if the "liberal elite" can make the party faithful vote against him what will happen to his nonsense in a national vote with all sorts of people?
The GOP always falls back on this sort of complaint against the elites and the media. Gingrich lost because this is not South Carolina. Florida is a more diverse state in terms of the electorate, and Gingrich polls poorly among just about everyone except for the NeoConservative right.

I think that it's pretty much a done deal for Romney now. Santorum is going to go and be with his daughter, as he should. Ron Paul, who would get my vote, never really got any traction at all. Gingrich will hang around to try and steal some votes, but it is more to be a thorn in Romney's side than anything else. It's just the kind of guy he is.
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Old 02-01-12, 05:43 PM   #62
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"Best of the night" is a pretty low bar, the others were pretty weak
They are all very weak, but gingritch was making as much sense with his rambling nonsense as Ron Paul does when he goes off on one.
Actually that is wrong, when Ron Paul goes off on one he occasionaly says some good things.
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Old 02-01-12, 05:50 PM   #63
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The GOP always falls back on this sort of complaint against the elites and the media.
I know , but with his background its incredibly unbelievable, besides which the media which is taking him apart is the same media which spends all its time complaining about the liberal media.

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Gingrich lost because this is not South Carolina.
Romney was the wrong religion for SC.

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I think that it's pretty much a done deal for Romney now.
Do you entirely rule out the possibility of a new face?
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Old 02-01-12, 05:57 PM   #64
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Do you entirely rule out the possibility of a new face?
Well, yeah. It's way too late for a new candidate to get into the election now. He'd never catch Romney, and both Team D and Team R bend over backwards to avoid even the idea of a brokered convention. It may result in a much greater representation of the will of the people, but it makes the party look indecisive or fractured and, well, it's just really, really important that the party looks good, right?
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Old 02-01-12, 07:14 PM   #65
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It may result in a much greater representation of the will of the people, but it makes the party look indecisive or fractured and, well, it's just really, really important that the party looks good, right?
But that is why it may be a possibility still, the party is fractured and indecisive and it already doesn't look good. So far its pretty much been a bunch of candidates who are either complete jokes or simply unelectable due to their divisive backgrounds.

If you think of it like, at the moment there are two monkeys throwing poo at each other by the time convention comes you are going to have two poo covered monkeys who won't scrub up at all and stink to high heaven, a fresh chimp could come in and crap all over the convention roll around in the filth and he will still look cleaner and more appealing than the other two apes.
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Old 02-01-12, 10:49 PM   #66
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Ron Paul, who would get my vote...
Will still get mine.
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Old 02-02-12, 03:57 PM   #67
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I'm going to write in my candidate, George Carlin for President.
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Old 02-02-12, 04:18 PM   #68
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Three questions:

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Is there a possibility of Gingrich running a 3rd party (Tea Party) campaign?

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Who could the GOP select as a running mate for Romney (Gingrich, perhaps)?

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What the hell happened to Palin? Wasn't she supposed to be the Tea Party's sort of stalking horse? Or, at least, a mover and shaker of the GOP right?
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Three questions:

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Is there a possibility of Gingrich running a 3rd party (Tea Party) campaign?
He could, which would demonstrate his lack of conservative creds, since he has almost no chance of winning as the republican nominee, and zero chance as a third party. Any "real" 3d party from the conservative side guarantees 4 more years of Obama. A vote in that direction is a positive vote for Obama.

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Who could the GOP select as a running mate for Romney (Gingrich, perhaps)?
I think there is too much bad blood for that.

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What the hell happened to Palin? Wasn't she supposed to be the Tea Party's sort of stalking horse? Or, at least, a mover and shaker of the GOP right?
She was never a mover and shaker in the GOP (leadership). She has a vocal following in the electorate, but even though people think she's an idiot, I think she's smart enough to know she's out of her depth (or ability to withstand more literally insane scrutiny (I'm not a Palin fan, but it's clear that the amount of effort the press spent to investigate her was crazy compared to their weak efforts vs Obama (wither his state government records, law firm papers, transcripts?).
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Old 02-02-12, 05:03 PM   #70
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Will still get mine.
Word is that Romney and Paul are good friends. It'd be interesting to see a Romney/Paul ticket. Kind of a slap in the face to the Neocons too. A moderate conservative and a Paleoconservative together, and probably the GOP's best chance to beat Obama.
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Old 02-02-12, 05:05 PM   #71
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Word is that Romney and Paul are good friends. It'd be interesting to see a Romney/Paul ticket. Kind of a slap in the face to the Neocons too. A moderate conservative and a Paleoconservative together, and probably the GOP's best chance to beat Obama.
Crap. I might actually vote for that ticket.
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Thanks, Tater. I just threw out those questions to see if anyone else would have any opinions on those matters...

Agree on answer to Question 1...

On Question 2, stranger things have happened. Go back as far as the JFK/LBJ ticket: neither one was a big fan of the other, but, in order to keep the Dems unified, JFK accepted LBJ to get things done he would have could not have done on his own..

As far as Palin, that question was a bit more tongue in cheek than serious. It's just funny how the GOP leadership and mainstream supporters bent over backwards to justify her being on the GOP ticket and taking grand umbrage at any who questioned her bona fides. Now, she is reduced to being just another talking head on Fox News...
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Crap. I might actually vote for that ticket.
I'd give some serious thought to it as well.
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I'm going to write in my candidate, George Carlin for President.
I thought being dead sort of invalidates one for the presidency.
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I thought being dead sort of invalidates one for the presidency.
It's actually the best trait for a president to have. If he's dead, he can't screw anything up more.
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