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Old 01-30-12, 04:22 PM   #1
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And several u-boatmen criticized the book as being over the top in several areas.
This is ironic and hilarious because Buchheim walked away from Petersen and Das Boot because Buchheim thought the script was over the top.
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Old 01-30-12, 05:22 PM   #2
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This is ironic and hilarious because Buchheim walked away from Petersen and Das Boot because Buchheim thought the script was over the top.
Even more so because Lehmann-Willenbrock was technical adviser on the movie, and he didn't walk away.
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Old 01-30-12, 05:46 PM   #3
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Even more so because Lehmann-Willenbrock was technical adviser on the movie, and he didn't walk away.
For me, that's what made the movie. The real "Der Alte" was there the entire time guiding everyone.
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Old 01-30-12, 06:56 PM   #4
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For me, that's what made the movie. The real "Der Alte" was there the entire time guiding everyone.
I think that you can change the depth of the sub using SD3 .. It seem my viib boat can only reach 160 meters , and than she starts getting damaged to the hull .. In fact just for and realisum I took the boat out and did crash dive test and amoungest other things
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Old 01-30-12, 07:11 PM   #5
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What does that have to do with my follow-up quote regarding "Das Boot"?
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Old 01-31-12, 04:47 AM   #6
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I manage to dive to 306 meters with a VIIB.
Damage started around 290 meters.

I used ''blow ballast'' option and engines ''back emergency''
but noting helpt it keeps sticking at 306 meters.

I got some screenshots, but i cant find the folder,
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Old 01-31-12, 07:49 AM   #7
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I manage to dive to 306 meters with a VIIB.
Damage started around 290 meters.
you can do anything with mods. Of course, in RL there is no way a VIIB/C could get anywhere close to that depth without risking severe and probably irreversible hull damage.

btw, what mod are you using?
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Hello,
first i do not know why Blair sometimes writes what he writes, i think he got some reports wrong. U-96 did neither try to sneak through Gibraltar with Buchheim aboard, nor was Buchheim aboard a submarine at the bottom near Gibraltar - at least that is what i read, by B. himself.
Do not take the novel "Das Boot" for completely real, and surely not the film (rivets giving in, in a welded boat ?). For all i have read Johann's reaction seem badly exagerrated, as well general discipline aboard those boats was high, even if the tone itself was sometimes un-militarily. More a kind of respect regarding the other's capabilities. This does not mean that the captain did not indeed have a pistol, and was allowed to use it in cases of mutiny or critical situations. For what has been written, it was never used.

Second, the 338 meters are from Tiesenhausen's log book, partly published in (among others) Frank's "Die Woelfe und der Admiral". The U-331 went down at a steep angle, so the bow may have been deeper than the central part of the boat, anyway a good 300 meters seem believable.

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