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Old 12-21-11, 09:25 PM   #1
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Thanks uekel

Yes - I have just checked in the task manager and the exe is flagged *32
I have win 7 64 with 6 gb Ram. I need this patch?what If I get 12 gb Ram?
Last time I brought this up it became concluded that I didn t need it. I m not familiar with these things but my rask manager showed "sh5.exe*32 " and I guess that means 32 bit.
windows 7 s own resource monitor showed approx 2.240 kb reserved for app by os and approx 2.000kb was working. Total in use was approx 3.600 kb and approx 2500 kb was available.
I guess it s that reserved by os that we want up. my gfx is 2 gig as well and according to TDW those 2 gigs will also be reserved.No idea how I can check that.

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Old 12-22-11, 01:03 PM   #2
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I have win 7 64 with 6 gb Ram. I need this patch?what If I get 12 gb Ram?
Sorry Husksubsky I am confused by this also - perhaps someone could explain this.

I assumed that with our 64bit system (mine is home prem) I could use up to 16GB ram.

But it looks like if the exe is running x86 (32bit) - we only get 4GB


Anyone know if this is correct
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Old 12-22-11, 03:44 PM   #3
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If an app is being ran in 32 bit mode on a 64bit system then by all accounts it should behave like it's running on a 32bit system. I don't know Windows7 architecture all that well but I do know that a 32bit exe cannot run on a 64bit system unless that system switches to 32bit mode for it (the wow64 part of Windows - wow is short for Windows on Windows). Being in 32bit mode then it should only have access to 2^32 or ~4GB of memory.
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Old 12-22-11, 05:30 PM   #4
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Yes this disturbs me. I ll buy 12 gig. And I can do some testing. One thing I r4eally wonder about is where are those 2 gigs that my gfx card reserve from my memory? I think like this:
I have 6 GB .
My win 7 uses 1.5 gb (TDW says)
My gfx card uses 2 gig (TDW says) .we re now up to 3,5 and that means I Have
2.5 gb for my sh5.exe. No need for a patch since I don t have more mem to use.

But I fear it doesn t look like this in real life.
For example where does the GFX get its memory?Possible the system reserves in a way that the gfx card take from those 4 gb the sh 5.exe could have have used?

And if you say the 32* files can allredy use 4 gb why then a patch? The patch was for 32 bit systems wasn t it ? where the limit was 3gb? (thus the reason I was told I didn t need the patch last time)

I have win 7 ultimate
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Old 12-22-11, 05:42 PM   #5
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Yes this disturbs me. I ll buy 12 gig. And I can do some testing. One thing I r4eally wonder about is where are those 2 gigs that my gfx card reserve from my memory? I think like this:
I have 6 GB .
My win 7 uses 1.5 gb (TDW says)
My gfx card uses 2 gig (TDW says) .we re now up to 3,5 and that means I Have
2.5 gb for my sh5.exe. No need for a patch since I don t have more mem to use.

But I fear it doesn t look like this in real life.
For example where does the GFX get its memory?Possible the system reserves in a way that the gfx card take from those 4 gb the sh 5.exe could have have used?

And if you say the 32* files can allredy use 4 gb why then a patch? The patch was for 32 bit systems wasn t it ? where the limit was 3gb? (thus the reason I was told I didn t need the patch last time)

I have win 7 ultimate
Same here:- Resource monitor says SH5 takes all available memory plus page file. I used the x64 memory patch, but I see no difference in the logs when I run SH5, although not looked too closely, but the game behaves the same (seemingly) as pre-x86 patch. In fact I upgraded to a x64 system to play this game with full 4Gig memory usage. I think the game, to run its fullest would need at minimum a dual core CPU, a decent GPU (Nvidia 9800 GTX+ onwards) and 4 Gig of RAM. I was running out of memory when I installed the sub interior mod (steelvikings) on the x86 system (I have a 4gig system with a 512MB card), that was the cause of odd stuff happening. FWIW.
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Old 12-22-11, 07:51 PM   #6
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I have 8 gigs of memory .
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Old 12-22-11, 09:25 PM   #7
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I just re-installed SH5 after upgrading to Win7 64 Home Premium... my "analysis" looks just like Sobers... it is only recognizing 4GB. I have 8 GB + 1GB video RAM.

The other strange item on that same screen is it said my graphics driver is out of date. But I just downloaded the driver from Nvidia this past weekend after putting my rig back together...
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