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Old 12-11-11, 12:10 PM   #1
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When you have such Allies, you really dont need any enemies no more.
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Old 12-11-11, 03:28 PM   #2
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Nobody forced them to mistake their enemy for their friend from beginning on.

And waging a war in a region one can only access and supply when depending on the good will of hostile factions and being vulnerable to their changing moods, also is no good idea to me.
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We hould sign a historic military and economic alliance with India. We should also bring Indian soveriegn control of Kashmir to India as well, via our huge influence in the UN.

We should also pay particular attention to the Pakistani nuclear program, it should take full attention from our watchdog activities on N. Korea and Iran.

After all, they knowingly hid Bin Laden, the self admitted and proud murderer of 3000 people.
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Old 12-11-11, 06:13 PM   #4
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We hould sign a historic military and economic alliance with India. We should also bring Indian soveriegn control of Kashmir to India as well, via our huge influence in the UN.

We should also pay particular attention to the Pakistani nuclear program, it should take full attention from our watchdog activities on N. Korea and Iran.

After all, they knowingly hid Bin Laden, the self admitted and proud murderer of 3000 people.
I may have been to a few funerals in 2001...
Which Nations Secret Service called ISI, is the big financer for the Taliban?
Make an educated guess.
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Old 12-11-11, 07:06 PM   #5
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We hould sign a historic military and economic alliance with India. We should also bring Indian soveriegn control of Kashmir to India as well, via our huge influence in the UN.

We should also pay particular attention to the Pakistani nuclear program, it should take full attention from our watchdog activities on N. Korea and Iran.

After all, they knowingly hid Bin Laden, the self admitted and proud murderer of 3000 people.
I may have been to a few funerals in 2001...
Looking at it from the broader geopolitical perspective that is probably the best move that America can make at this time...in fact it is probably the only move America can make. India has been for some years more firmly entrenched in Russias court, but with the souring of relations with Pakistan the US could make a play for Indian friendship...of course, how long this would last after a phone call to New Delhi from Moscow I do not know, but friendship with India would not only help keep the US in the new Great Game but would also put more power behind India in its stand against China which is seen as the US's primary rival in the coming years.
The primary problem with setting up shop in the India of todays Great Game is that it lacks the border with Afghanistan that it had two hundred years ago, however it is the southern gateway from the PRC into the Middle East and Africa, the PRC can't go through Pakistan as it would have to go through Kashmir which is a political, figurative and literal minefield, which just leaves the Russian satellites of the northern 'stans.

One has to be careful how one plays the Great Game though, if Russia and China were to be pushed together closer through some form of diplomatic failure, and if they were to form an alliance...they could exert considerable political, economic and military force.
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Old 12-11-11, 07:09 PM   #6
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Nobody forced them to mistake their enemy for their friend from beginning on.

And waging a war in a region one can only access and supply when depending on the good will of hostile factions and being vulnerable to their changing moods, also is no good idea to me.

"a war begun for no wise purpose, carried on with a strange mixture of rashness and timidity, brought to a close after suffering and disaster, without much glory attached either to the government which directed, or the great body of troops which waged it. Not one benefit, political or military, was acquired with this war. Our eventual evacuation of the country resembled the retreat of an army defeated."

A quote from the first Anglo-Afghan war...it's amazing how little has changed...
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