WW3

[Betonov]

If you ask me, a war between China and Russia is more likely. All those raw materials in Siberia, mmmmmmmm

Plus, China is in active trade with the US, like you said, her best customer, while Russia is more of a competitor, trying to break into the market. Especially with energy, Russia has a lot of it and China will soon need it. But Russians won't sell cheap
Plus they share a land border.

[Karle94]

Originally Posted by Betonov

If you ask me, a war between China and Russia is more likely. All those raw materials in Siberia, mmmmmmmm

Plus, China is in active trade with the US, like you said, her best customer, while Russia is more of a competitor, trying to break into the market. Especially with energy, Russia has a lot of it and China will soon need it. But Russians won't sell cheap
Plus they share a land border.

I believe you are correct. The Russians and the Chinese has been at each others througts since the 60`s. The Russians had more plans for attacking China that the US. China then saw Russia as a bigger threat than the US. Russia and China had many border clashes that the US and USSR never had. If there`s a war between China and Russia, and China is the aggressor and Russia is doing poorly, I do believe that the US will indirectly support Russia.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Karle94

The Russians and the Chinese has been at each others througts since the 60`s.

They have been at each others throat since Genghis rode west.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

They have been at each others throat since Genghis rode west.

Except that Genghis was Mongolian; an entirely seperate ethnic and cultural group from the Chinese.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Except that Genghis was Mongolian; an entirely seperate ethnic and cultural group from the Chinese.

The point is that the "Horde of Asians riding west" is the constant fear of Russia. The Mongolians were the dominate group back then, the Han Chinese are now.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

The point is that the "Horde of Asians riding west" is the constant fear of Russia. The Mongolians were the dominate group back then, the Han Chinese are now.

But they weren't Chinese, which is the real point. If you were to point to tensions with the Dynastic rulers over trade and land, you would have made a better analogy. However, the Mongols were just as much a threat to the Chinese as they were the Russians; going as far to build The Wall to keep them out. What you argued was like blaming the tension between Palestinians and Israelis on the Crusades. The crusaders were indeed common enemies to both groups, but the two have their very own reasons for hating each other.

[nikimcbee]

If China were the aggressor, do you think they'd pull a "lebensraum" and try to annex part of Siberia?

Didn't Tom Clancy do a novel about this anyway?

If China really wanted to hurt the US, all they would need to do is a trade embargo. Block all exports to the US. Not a naval blockade, but block ships leaving their ports. How long could Walmart hold out?

[nikimcbee]

I was under the impression China-Russia were playing nicely together?

[Takeda Shingen]

The fact that we are now citing Tom Clancy demonstrates the implausibility of a conflict anytime in the forseeable future.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Karle94

I believe you are correct. The Russians and the Chinese has been at each others througts since the 60`s. The Russians had more plans for attacking China that the US. China then saw Russia as a bigger threat than the US. Russia and China had many border clashes that the US and USSR never had. If there`s a war between China and Russia, and China is the aggressor and Russia is doing poorly, I do believe that the US will indirectly support Russia.

Not so long ago, I red a book from Tom Clancy The name of the book was (in danish-bjørnen og Dragen) in english The bear and the Dragon.

Markus