Desert Storm - 20 years ago, back to the present

[Skybird]

As far as I know the British MoD is no customer of theirs and so Brittitanic vehicles have a tough stand in SBP modelling. Also, eSim once said that the MoD was extremely paranoid to let them have a look inside the Challanger, else we maybe would have a virtual 3D interior for it today.

However, the now also crewable M1A1 should makie some people jump up. The playable heavy beast collection is extremely Leopard-heavy, I must admit that. But that is their customers.

Somehow I like that video. It let's people feel where the realism is coming from.

[Skybird]

Did I really write "brittitanic"...? I wonder what part of my neural network had a blackout there.

[Ducimus]

Hmmm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Beasts

Steel Beasts Professional - Full version, only available to military clients.

Damn, from what I saw of the video, id love to have a copy of the professional version.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Hmmm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Beasts



Damn, from what I saw of the video, id love to have a copy of the professional version.

Hm...?

It is the PE - the Personal Edition. It is the version for the military, lacking external instructor interface, and limiting certain options with regard to the digital maps, for example map size (25x25 km or something in that range). Also, the number of players in network play is imited in PE, to 8 I think.

The PE version is available to the public. Featuring the same AI, the same weaponry, the same physics and the same vehicle park. Just that you must not pay 18.000 dollars per 10-seat license.

Head over to the tanksim forum, there is plenty of information and many more videos. Believe me - it was me setting them up. Especially the stickied SBP resources, and the SBP video thread I recommend.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Skybird

As far as I know the British MoD is no customer of theirs and so Brittitanic vehicles have a tough stand in SBP modelling.

I haven't been following SBP scene for a while, but if I recall, none of their real customers use Abrams either. Or am I wrong?

Also, they have apparently added / will be adding T-72 to the game as playable now?

Gee, I really need to update my status after 2007.

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Damn, from what I saw of the video, id love to have a copy of the professional version.

As far as I know the major difference between the army version and the civilian version of the Pro is that the army version has "instructor mode" where the officer overseeing the exercise can create sudden fun stuff such as blowing up half of your platoon just because he feels like it. The simulation itself is the same.

Edit: Bah, ninjaed. Oh well, Skybird likely has more accurate information on this subject than I do anyway.

[Ducimus]

Damn ill have to check that out. Years and years ago I did have an interest in Tank sims. (Which was shortly after my dying interest in flight sims. Never could land for squat )

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

(Which was shortly after my dying interest in flight sims. Never could land for squat )

That's no excuse. After all, it's never stopped Oberon.*












*It's usually the ground that does that. Bazinga!

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

That's no excuse. After all, it's never stopped Oberon.*

You didn't see the Flight Sim I was playing.....


I tried 4.0 later. I sucked at it, and lost interest.

When i said, years and years ago, i wasn't kidding. ;P

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Damn ill have to check that out. Years and years ago I did have an interest in Tank sims. (Which was shortly after my dying interest in flight sims. Never could land for squat )

Check the MP mission videos done by Zipuli, especially "Brave Rifles" part 1-6, wich was Hannover or Fulda Gap cold war battle - 1 hours of video covering 24 hours of battle. Quite some drama happened in there!

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Check the MP mission videos done by Zipuli, especially "Brave Rifles" part 1-6, wich was Hannover or Fulda Gap cold war battle - 1 hours of video covering 24 hours of battle. Quite some drama happened in there!

That's bookmarked, I love those Fulda Gap scenarios.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

I haven't been following SBP scene for a while, but if I recall, none of their real customers use Abrams either. Or am I wrong?

Canada uses both Leopards (1's and 2's) and Abrams, and Australia uses Abrams in small quantities, replacing their old Leo-1AS, or did they go for the Leo-2 as well?

Also, they have apparently added / will be adding T-72 to the game as playable now?

Yes. With 3D interior.

And while we're at it, the Abrams as playable is not new, but so far it was the old M1 only. The M1A1 and SEP were added last year, but non-playable, the M1A1 now is playable with 3D interior, too. The old Leopard 2A4
finally got 3D interior as well. The Challenger 2 was added in last update, but non-playable, it is now being turned into playable, but without 3D interior (TC and gunner only have all their sights available, like the Leo2A4 before.

Full vehicle list in the SBP resources, there are 17 MBTs now (some definitely cold war era), plus 60+ other vehicles (APCs, IFVs, cars, trucks, new upgrade not counted, helicopters and infantry not counted). Of the MBTs, 11 are playable now. Two dozens of the other vehicles are playable as well.

Edit: Bah, ninjaed. Oh well, Skybird likely has more accurate information on this subject than I do anyway.

I know not more than what they make public, and what I know from using the sim since years.

Tanksim forum has a thread listing the major news on the upgrade's content. Centurions, for example, or Boxer, Fuchs, 2S1, ZSU-23, new bridge layer options, and 3D infantry. Mannable ATGMs also is new. Plus the usual package of bug fixing. They said they are still not done with revealing all new candy - more to come, that means.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Canada uses both Leopards (1's and 2's) and Abrams, and Australia use Abrams in small quantities, or not?

Aus has phased out the Leopard Is for M1A2s and they're looking to get some TUSKs too IIRC. They use diesel instead of kerosene, but that's the beauty of the Abrams, you can throw just about anything in its engine and it'll still whisper its way into battle.
They still use the venerable Shoebox too, it's amazing how they're still slugging on after all these years. Shows what a good design it is, good, cheap, robust and rugged.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Aus has phased out the Leopard Is for M1A2s and they're looking to get some TUSKs too IIRC. They use diesel instead of kerosene, but that's the beauty of the Abrams, you can throw just about anything in its engine and it'll still whisper its way into battle.

Like with the Leopard, which is said to even run with salad oil, if only you have sufficient supply of that. Just that the Abams's turbine is much more thirsty than a Diesel-engine. The Russians, after the T-80, gave up again on turbine-run tanks.

[Skybird]

IMPACT!

SBP v2.640 is released since 2 hours, 17 minutes.

http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/...570#post203570

Laßt's krachen, Jungs!

P.S. Price is for upgrade from earlier versions: 25 $US/18.68 Euros