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Old 10-29-11, 03:07 PM   #1
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Basically, the reality is that the left(right) can make fun of, denigrate, bash and try to destroy whomever. They have to - because they can't win in the arena of ideas. So they have to engage in the politics of personal destruction.

They will use race if it benefits them, but woe betide the non-liberal(conservative) who mentions skin pigmentation, where someone is from, etc. They will use sexism whenever its convenient, but no one else should ever do so. They will use religious persecution but everyone else must be tolerant and accepting.

Look at how the left(right) has gone absolutely ape over trying to find a way to kick the legs out from someone like Cain. They are the one that brings up race. When they were scared of Bachman, they had to bring up her "submission" to her husband. Hillary even endured the PMS jokes when running against Obama.

OWS speakers are interviewed and propound on how all the Jews should be shipped out of the country, and no one says anything. Let a conservative(liberal) say that a moron like Farrikan should get his own independant nation of islam somewhere way the hell away from the US, and we are intolerant hatemongering racists.

When someone points out the obvious problems with the actions of the liberal(conservative) media - the only answer (as we have seen here) is to ignore the problem and instead yell how other people/media suck.

And the left(right) can't figure out why their propoganda machines are still losing viewership.....
Seems to work both ways pretty well to me. It's who you choose to side with mostly. If I'm asked whether I'm a Republican or Democrat, I answer I'm a voter now to shut them up.
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Old 10-29-11, 04:18 PM   #2
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Seems to work both ways pretty well to me. It's who you choose to side with mostly. If I'm asked whether I'm a Republican or Democrat, I answer I'm a voter now to shut them up.
Well the question should be, do you believe in the consitution and what the founding fathers set forth, and that all, and I repeat all, men are created equal under the eyes of our lord. If there is a problem with that, feel free to respond after all it is a free country.
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Well the question should be, do you believe in the consitution and what the founding fathers set forth, and that all, and I repeat all, men are created equal under the eyes of our lord. If there is a problem with that, feel free to respond after all it is a free country.
Created equal? Yes. Equal outcomes.....no. Some people work harder than others. Some people make better decisions than others.
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True, I made a mistake, god created man, the equal thing I'm a little fuzzy on, but that's where Samuel Colt comes into play, so do tell me, where does any man have the right too rule over, or too enslave another, feel free to respond. And by the way equal out comes by ones decisions does not make, he or she less or more equal than any other, I've made some bone head decisions but that, does not exclude me from, Life, Liberty, and the endless pursuit of Tail and Happyness

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Well the question should be, do you believe in the consitution and what the founding fathers set forth, and that all, and I repeat all, men are created equal under the eyes of our lord. If there is a problem with that, feel free to respond after all it is a free country.
How did you quantum leap to that question? If you mean by choosing one party over the other you decide if your for or against the constitution, I find that way too white hat verses black hat. I vote for who or what seems to best follow my interpretation of said document as neither party is very good at following it when inconvenient to their cause de jour.

As for being created equal under the eyes of our lord, that is in the Declaration of Independence.

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....
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How did you quantum leap to that question? If you mean by choosing one party over the other you decide if your for or against the constitution, I find that way too white hat verses black hat. I vote for who or what seems to best follow my interpretation of said document as neither party is very good at following it when inconvenient to their cause de jour.

As for being created equal under the eyes of our lord, that is in the Declaration of Independence.

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....
Well you took the time to type all of that out ain't it an inspiriting thing to read, but you took the quantum leap right over my last post, I'll ask it again what right does any man have to rule over or enslave another with out one's consent I didn't know a political party mattered. That whenever any form of government becomes, destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or ablolish it, makes pretty good reading doesn't it, remember you posted it.

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Well you took the time to type all of that out ain't it an inspiriting thing to read, but you took the quantum leap right over my last post, I'll ask it again what right does any man have to rule over or enslave another with out one's consent I didn't know a political party mattered.
You never explained how my stating I call myself neither Republican, or Democrat, is related to if I believe in the constitution and all men created equal in the eyes of our lord etc. You just repeated your question.
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Ok, just call me stupid, I'll make it simple, so I and who ever reads this will know where you stand, and remember you asked for it no pressure, do you or don't you believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, and what it stands for.???? And of course you didn't answer my question, does any man have the right to rule or enslave another.???????also meaning, banks, governments,and other agencies with unfair practices.

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I hate too say it your silence is deafening, no man has the right, too rule or enslave another, without ones consent. I don't care what krotch of what tree you think you fell out of, you don't have the right.

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Ok, just call me stupid, I'll make it simple, so I and who ever reads this will know where you stand, and remember you asked for it no pressure, do you or don't you believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, and what it stands for.???? And of course you didn't answer my question, does any man have the right to rule or enslave another.???????also meaning, banks, governments,and other agencies with unfair practices.
I haven't answered your question because you failed to answer mine first as I indicated once already. You simply repeat your question to me about my belief and don't explain yourself.

Never mind, if you choose to orate on your own be my guest.

I stated I vote for who, or what, best supports my interpretation of the Constitution, and don't say it's not subject to interpretation as it gets interpreted constantly. As for who has a right to limit your freedom, we all do if in the act of exercising your freedom you impinge on others exercising their freedom. This is why we have laws and incarcerate people.
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