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Old 10-16-11, 12:48 PM   #46
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*sigh* Here we go again..
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*Look, there was no "freefall", load up a video of the towers collapsing and time it.
You'll notice that the "truther" theory is nothing but BS. That's how they do it..
Despite the fact I partially agree with you, "Its all BS" not exactly best example of reasoning either, is it Dowly?

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*Ju_88, what exactly makes you say that? Lemme guess, Loose Chance?
You mean loose change? No. I saw the trailer and I though it looked crap, thanks for assuming anyway...

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*Do you your own damn research people...

I have done, many hours over the the space of the last 10 years, sorry but I didnt quite reach the same conclusions as you.

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*There's nothing in 9/11 that indicates there was any foul play.
Again Im sorry but i dont agree, IMO - There's nothing in 9/11 that PROVES there was any foul play.

Each to their own
Im done here.
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Old 10-16-11, 05:25 PM   #47
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The simplest reasoning: For 9/11 to have been anything other than a terrorist attack, we have to assume that the government planning and execution of the plot have happened in complete secrecy, and that said secrecy would be 100% inviolate over not only the initial planning and execution phase, but also over the last ten years.

I find that highly implausible.
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Old 10-16-11, 07:29 PM   #48
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There is one other problem with the 9/11 government plot idea....

To have that happen - not only would the government have had to know the exact timing of the terrorist actions (since no one disputes that planes actually flew into the 2 towers or that it was done by terrorists), they would have had to work WITH the terrorists to get that info. Had that happened - you can bet your last virgin that ole bin laden and the rest of al queda (along with the Afghan taliban government) would have been trumpeting that loud and long. It would have saved them tremendous hardship.

The fact they havent - and that there has been NO indication of collusion between the 2, demonstrates that the 9/11 truther movement is based on imagination, and not any fact.

Oh, JU88 - there are pictures and video showing the airplane debri at the pentagon.
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Old 10-16-11, 10:56 PM   #49
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The simplest reasoning: For 9/11 to have been anything other than a terrorist attack, we have to assume that the government planning and execution of the plot have happened in complete secrecy, and that said secrecy would be 100% inviolate over not only the initial planning and execution phase, but also over the last ten years.

I find that highly implausible.
Aye, there's the rub. Hundreds of people to make it happen, only one to blow the thing wide open. Hard to believe that one hasn't come forward with proof in all this time.
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Old 10-17-11, 08:04 AM   #50
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If its boring to you, no one is forcing you to particiapate.
The discussion of said subject is not boring. What is boring, is the bit where
in the past discussions, tons and tons of material has been brought up that
more or less debunks everything the "truthers" say, yet I feel like repeating myself.

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Despite the fact I partially agree with you, "Its all BS" not exactly best example of reasoning either, is it Dowly?
In this case, it pretty much sums the "truthers" evidence. Which in many
cases is either a) Stuff taken out of context or b) lies (that have been proven as ones).

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You mean loose change? No. I saw the trailer and I though it looked crap, thanks for assuming anyway...
I didn't assume, I guessed. There's a difference. Doesn't really matter, tho.
The USAF failing has been discussed and pointed out that fighters were scrambled,
they just didn't have enough time to intercept.

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I have done, many hours over the the space of the last 10 years, sorry but I didnt quite reach the same conclusions as you.
Then may I suggest http://www.911myths.com/ and http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/ to study.

The show "Hardfire" is pretty good too, good debates. You can find the channel
on youtube by searching for "Hardfire".
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Old 10-17-11, 08:17 AM   #51
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Those poor 3000 souls.
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Old 10-17-11, 08:20 AM   #52
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Old 10-17-11, 08:39 AM   #53
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For those who aren't sure whether planes, or something else hit the Pentagon and the field in Pennsylvania; where are the people who boarded those planes that morning?

They were businessmen, students, mothers, fathers, etc. They all had loved ones who saw them off, and have never heard from them again.

A fortunate few spoke to them during the hijackings and were able to say good-bye.

The missile theory does not explain away the missing people.
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Old 10-17-11, 08:46 AM   #54
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They are at super secret NSA plant being reprogrammed to be assassins for the government.
That was easy...
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The missile theory does not explain away the missing people.
Don't recall there being any possible, sane, explanation for the missile theory to begin with.
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Old 10-17-11, 11:48 AM   #56
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They are at super secret NSA plant being reprogrammed to be assassins for the government.
That was easy...
A little insensitive don't you think?
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Old 10-17-11, 12:25 PM   #57
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A little insensitive don't you think?
What is that about???
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Old 10-17-11, 12:59 PM   #58
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Old 10-17-11, 02:03 PM   #59
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What's insensitive about it? The missile theory does not explain the disappearance of those people who were aboard the aircraft that was "supposed" to have hit the Pentagon.
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