2.3 TRILLION bucks 'missing' from Pentagon on 9/10/01

but then again 1,627 architects and engineers say thats its not.

I could probably list more than 1600 architects and engineers who are absolutely clueless, so if its that easy to come up with those numbers on a very localised list how much weight does 1600 architects and engineers that you know nothing of scale on a worldwide count?
It like saying 0.00000000000000000000000001% of doctors dispute the link between smoking and some cancers and holding up a herbalist with some magic stones and an online doctorate from St Barts(Lagos branch)as a medical expert

[Armistead]

Look, we all know the truth, GW Bush, a secret group of CIA officers and Fox News and did all of this. They spent months planting explosives in all these buildings, perfectly timed with plane hits so they could murder 3000 americans...


Sorry, Bush was so dumb he couldn't beat himself out of a wet paper bag.
Like WMD's....that was proven a known myth.

It would take 1000's of people to be in the know around the world at highest levels without any talking or getting caught.

They call themselves truthers, but operate on possible theories..

[Dowly]

*sigh* Here we go again.

Look, there was no "freefall", load up a video of the towers collapsing and time it.
You'll notice that the "truther" theory is nothing but BS. That's how they do it.

Re: USAF failing
Ju_88, what exactly makes you say that? Lemme guess, Loose Chance?
Again, do your own research. The "truthers" say it should've taken, what, 10-15
minutes to intercept the planes? Wanna know what they base that on?
On a flight control simulator, i.e. a video game. Nothing but BS.

Do you your own damn research people.

There's nothing in 9/11 that indicates there was any foul play.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Dowly

*sigh* Here we go again..

If its boring to you, no one is forcing you to particiapate.

Originally Posted by Dowly

*Look, there was no "freefall", load up a video of the towers collapsing and time it.
You'll notice that the "truther" theory is nothing but BS. That's how they do it..

Despite the fact I partially agree with you, "Its all BS" not exactly best example of reasoning either, is it Dowly?

Originally Posted by Dowly

*Ju_88, what exactly makes you say that? Lemme guess, Loose Chance?

You mean loose change? No. I saw the trailer and I though it looked crap, thanks for assuming anyway...

Originally Posted by Dowly

*Do you your own damn research people...

I have done, many hours over the the space of the last 10 years, sorry but I didnt quite reach the same conclusions as you.

Originally Posted by Dowly

*There's nothing in 9/11 that indicates there was any foul play.

Again Im sorry but i dont agree, IMO - There's nothing in 9/11 that PROVES there was any foul play.

Each to their own
Im done here.

[Growler]

The simplest reasoning: For 9/11 to have been anything other than a terrorist attack, we have to assume that the government planning and execution of the plot have happened in complete secrecy, and that said secrecy would be 100% inviolate over not only the initial planning and execution phase, but also over the last ten years.

I find that highly implausible.

[CaptainHaplo]

There is one other problem with the 9/11 government plot idea....

To have that happen - not only would the government have had to know the exact timing of the terrorist actions (since no one disputes that planes actually flew into the 2 towers or that it was done by terrorists), they would have had to work WITH the terrorists to get that info. Had that happened - you can bet your last virgin that ole bin laden and the rest of al queda (along with the Afghan taliban government) would have been trumpeting that loud and long. It would have saved them tremendous hardship.

The fact they havent - and that there has been NO indication of collusion between the 2, demonstrates that the 9/11 truther movement is based on imagination, and not any fact.

Oh, JU88 - there are pictures and video showing the airplane debri at the pentagon.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Growler

The simplest reasoning: For 9/11 to have been anything other than a terrorist attack, we have to assume that the government planning and execution of the plot have happened in complete secrecy, and that said secrecy would be 100% inviolate over not only the initial planning and execution phase, but also over the last ten years.

I find that highly implausible.

Aye, there's the rub. Hundreds of people to make it happen, only one to blow the thing wide open. Hard to believe that one hasn't come forward with proof in all this time.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by JU_88

If its boring to you, no one is forcing you to particiapate.

The discussion of said subject is not boring. What is boring, is the bit where
in the past discussions, tons and tons of material has been brought up that
more or less debunks everything the "truthers" say, yet I feel like repeating myself.

Despite the fact I partially agree with you, "Its all BS" not exactly best example of reasoning either, is it Dowly?

In this case, it pretty much sums the "truthers" evidence. Which in many
cases is either a) Stuff taken out of context or b) lies (that have been proven as ones).

You mean loose change? No. I saw the trailer and I though it looked crap, thanks for assuming anyway...

I didn't assume, I guessed. There's a difference. Doesn't really matter, tho.
The USAF failing has been discussed and pointed out that fighters were scrambled,
they just didn't have enough time to intercept.

I have done, many hours over the the space of the last 10 years, sorry but I didnt quite reach the same conclusions as you.

Then may I suggest http://www.911myths.com/ and http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/ to study.

The show "Hardfire" is pretty good too, good debates. You can find the channel
on youtube by searching for "Hardfire".

[Blood_splat]

Those poor 3000 souls.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Blood_splat

Those poor 3000 souls.

QFT