Is Israel Its Own Worst Enemy?

[MH]

Originally Posted by Krauter

To be honest I won't be surprised, much less have a shred of empathy if any of Israel's Arab neighbours declares war again..

Every one to his own but it would be interesting to know why?
After all Israel went through at least 3 major wars just for being on the map.

As for the Holocaust.
I really don't know what your issue with it.
One thing is sure Jews have every reason to remember it.

[Krauter]

And in those wars it was just trying to survive, to the best of my knowledge please correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems to me now that Israel is just trying to push more and more and see how far it can go before it utilizes excuses to get what it wants.

Aye and I believe they have every right to remember the Holocaust, nor do I have any "issue with it. It was a terrible moment in human kinds history as well as that of the Germans and Jews. I sincerely hope that no event like that ever occurs again.

But it seems to me that the Israeli's use the Holocaust as a means to justify all of the goals and tactics. "Israel, why do you do this?

- Because we are protecting ourselves, what if they perpetrate another Holocaust on our nation and on our people?

Yes, but they've exhibited no signs of wanting to do this...

- We have reason to believe that they are."

[MH]

Originally Posted by Krauter

And in those wars it was just trying to survive, to the best of my knowledge please correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems to me now that Israel is just trying to push more and more and see how far it can go before it utilizes excuses to get what it wants.

By using holocaust as excuse?
I don't know what you hear from Jewish communities in Canada or USA but i'm against using holocaust in politics or as excuses.
Israel is not pushing-as i see it the country is still fighting for survival.
Besides that... most what you hear about Israeli apartheid or oppression of Palestinians is plain bull.

Remember that about 80% of West Bank Palestinian live under Palestinian Autonomous Authority right now.
Most of Israeli Palestinians don't want to be part of PA because they enjoy freedom and life quality that is not possible in Arab countries.

But again...you can attend Israeli Apartheid meeting and hear otherwise.

[Jimbuna]

Israel may well be feeling increasingly isolated and if it loses the support of the US (which I seriously doubt will ever happen) anything can happen in the region...most likely a war.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by MH

By using holocaust as excuse?
I don't know what you hear from Jewish communities in Canada or USA but i'm against using holocaust in politics or as excuses.

It may just be me, but almost all of the people who I've met that immigrated from Israel seem to think the world owes them for the holocaust and seem to think Israel is the next big player in world politics.