SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-03-11, 10:04 AM   #1
Rockstar
In the Brig
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 12,614
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

These jaywalkers were not arrested because they were protesting therefore their rights were not trampled. They were arrested for jaywalking and impeding the flow of traffic. They should do time and be put to work painting the bridge and sweeping streets
Rockstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 10:08 AM   #2
soopaman2
Der Alte
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 3,316
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
These jaywalkers should do time and be put to work painting the bridge and sweeping streets
I guess that means you already have yours, and don't care that Wall Street lost what was everyone elses (and still got phat bonuses at the end of the day, thanks to people like me who pay taxes to bail them out, and barely get by).

This Wall street mess affects the world. I'm glad your happy in your hamlet, but a large percentage of us are not happy in our cardboard box.
__________________
If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

-Winston Churchill-

The most fascinating man in the world.
soopaman2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 10:30 AM   #3
Betonov
Navy Seal
 
Betonov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 8,647
Downloads: 26
Uploads: 0


Default



I like this guy, his critical of his goverment

And Rockstar is also right they could have costed someone elses job for making them late for work. But I also wonder, would the police be so vigilant in their arrests if the protests werent aimed at their corporate overlords
Betonov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 10:38 AM   #4
soopaman2
Der Alte
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 3,316
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Betonov View Post


I like this guy, his critical of his goverment

And Rockstar is also right they could have costed someone elses job for making them late for work. But I also wonder, would the police be so vigilant in their arrests if the protests werent aimed at their corporate overlords
Bingo! as Hans Landa said.

The mayor of New York City is Micheal Bloomberg, a man who made his fortune on Wall Street, also the owner of Bloomberg News. 2 plus 2 is 4, unless your on Wall Street, then 2 plus 2 is whatever you can fool someone into thinking it is.
__________________
If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

-Winston Churchill-

The most fascinating man in the world.
soopaman2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 10:40 AM   #5
joea
Silent Hunter
 
joea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva
Posts: 3,512
Downloads: 25
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by soopaman2 View Post
Bingo! as Hans Landa said.

The mayor of New York City is Micheal Bloomberg, a man who made his fortune on Wall Street, also the owner of Bloomberg News. 2 plus 2 is 4, unless your on Wall Street, then 2 plus 2 is whatever you can fool someone into thinking it is.
That I did not know!
joea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 12:16 PM   #6
Ducimus
Rear Admiral
 
Ducimus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 12,987
Downloads: 67
Uploads: 2


Default

I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
Ducimus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 12:24 PM   #7
Betonov
Navy Seal
 
Betonov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 8,647
Downloads: 26
Uploads: 0


Default

Small busineses that are the bright star of capitalism will suffer when rioting begins, big business will bunker down and wait until it everything dies down and damage will be done to the ones that suffer the most because of the reasons this protests began.
Betonov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 12:26 PM   #8
mookiemookie
Navy Seal
 
mookiemookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 9,404
Downloads: 105
Uploads: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducimus View Post
I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
I don't think any of the protesters have any illusions of changing the system overnight. But it's a start. These people have decided that the status quo isn't good enough and that it's an unfair system that exploits people to line the pockets of the rich and powerful.

Don't think for a minute that common people coming together can't change things. The labor movement of the early 20th century, the civil rights movement, the Vietnam war protests - they were all about the little people getting in the face of those in power, and yes, people are going to be arrested for doing it. Yes, the police will try and crack down on it. But if they didn't could it really be called civil disobedience?

That's why the Tea Party was the joke that it was. It was astroturfing and its agenda set by the wealthy and those in power. It was a costume party and nothing more.

I'm all for anything that sticks it to the Corporatocracy. This country is being taken from us, and some rubes think its being taken by the immigrants or the socialists or the environmentalists or whatever boogeyman those in power want you to think it is, just so you don't realize that it's them doing the taking.

And there's my political grandstanding soapbox moment for the day.
__________________
They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.
mookiemookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 01:20 PM   #9
soopaman2
Der Alte
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 3,316
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducimus View Post
I'd be surprised if that protest has any effect, or isn't snuffed out in one way or another. Money equals power, and wall street has lots of it. I think constitutional right's won't make much of difference in our system with it's many loopholes.
yes sir Ducimus. That is my fear. We want a better country and world for all, ruled by fairness in law for everyone. If a business messes up and fails, then it dies. That is how capitalism is supposed to work. not to be bailed out, then raise fees on debit cards like Bank of America did. And not loan after being given close to zero percent interest by the federal reserve. They took that money to play the stock market with, rather than lend to small business. (small business is where a massive majority of employment comes from)


The privatize the profits, and socialize the losses thing is why they are out there. It's not fair for the struggling to pay for the excesses of the sloppy bankers.

You all in Europe are paying for Wall Streets profligacy too, this garbage with the Euro and Greece is an indirect result of people playing war games with money.

It's not just America who has to gain from this protest. And it is in more cities than just New York at this point.
__________________
If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

-Winston Churchill-

The most fascinating man in the world.
soopaman2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 04:14 PM   #10
Rockstar
In the Brig
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 12,614
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by soopaman2 View Post
I guess that means you already have yours, and don't care that Wall Street lost what was everyone elses (and still got phat bonuses at the end of the day, thanks to people like me who pay taxes to bail them out, and barely get by).

This Wall street mess affects the world. I'm glad your happy in your hamlet, but a large percentage of us are not happy in our cardboard box.
LOL ya I got mine, riiiight. If you have a case against someone then state it. But I have to tell ya using me for an example only makes you look foolish.

As an American and I am considered by some chart to live at the poverty level but to my friends in Kenya I live like a king because I have running water. I don't own a home, my back yard is where ever I happen to be. I like simplicity and I don't have anything for anyone to take. I don't work to collect crap for shelves and closets. I work to provide for needs with a treat sometimes in between.

For centuries people have worked for the sole reason to obtain things. They live cut throat lives coveting money, collecting crap they don't need and live in mansions that would house dozens of people. But ya know what Soopaman2 that's fine by me because I have absolutely no desire to live like that nor do I expect them to give me what they spent their lives working to obtain.

Now you may think you deserve what they worked for so you can move into a wooden box like them. But as for me, I like what I have and I wouldn't trade for the world.

Now are you protesting for the right to put on a suit and tie to go and work like them? Or are you protesting for the right to get them to give you things because you're to stupid to put on a suit and tie and work like them?
Rockstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-11, 04:23 PM   #11
soopaman2
Der Alte
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 3,316
Downloads: 61
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
LOL ya I got mine, riiiight. If you have a case against someone then state it. But I have to tell ya using me for an example only makes you look foolish.

As an American and I am considered by some chart to live at the poverty level but to my friends in Kenya I live like a king because I have running water. I don't own a home, my back yard is where ever I happen to be. I like simplicity and I don't have anything for anyone to take. I don't work to collect crap for shelves and closets. I work to provide for needs with a treat sometimes in between.

For centuries people have worked for the sole reason to obtain things. They live cut throat lives coveting money, collecting crap they don't need and live in mansions that would house dozens of people. But ya know what Soopaman2 that's fine by me because I have absolutely no desire to live like that nor do I expect them to give me whats spent their lives working to obtain.

Now you may think you deserve what they worked for so you can move into a wooden box like them. But as for me I like what I have and I wouldn't trade for the world.
I'm happy with my life, and want nothing I didn't earn, they (protesters) don't either. I think your trying to call me a socialist? Typical right wing method.

I just want my future secured, i want the pension I paid into all my life to be there, and not gambled away by shylocks. Because when they lose it, their feet are not held to the fire, rather they are given bailouts using our taxpayer money that can be put into better things. Like back into SSI that we all pay into but the government keeps giving away to its pork projects and wars.

No money for SSI that Americans pay into, have to privatize it (so wall street can lose it) But plenty to feed the UN monster (that hates us) and to uphold 700 military bases around the world....

Dude enjoy the bliss.

edit: I reread my post and it come across as agressive, not my intention sir. Martin Niemoller (sp) comes to mind in this case.
the quotation:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

They will get to you eventually my friend. But I suppose we can agree to disagree.
__________________
If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

-Winston Churchill-

The most fascinating man in the world.

Last edited by soopaman2; 10-03-11 at 04:33 PM. Reason: edit text can be so mean sounding.
soopaman2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.