Military buildup

kraznyi_oktjabr · 09-25-11, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Unless your enemy is dependent on overseas trade (US, China, Japan) or has national goals off shore (Falklands, Taiwan). Then a submarine can put them in to ruin or deny them their end goals.

...or they could use aircraft, unless I have missed sub with area air defence capability - without telling everyone where it is.

In case of Taiwan air route maybe a bit challenging.

TLAM Strike · 09-25-11, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

...or they could use aircraft, unless I have missed sub with area air defence capability - without telling everyone where it is.

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Oberon · 09-25-11, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Is this going to be in the next LWAMI mod?

TLAM Strike · 09-25-11, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Is this going to be in the next LWAMI mod?

Fear the Aegis Submarine!!

kraznyi_oktjabr · 09-25-11, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

How many boilers this monster have?

This "boat" brings to my mind the Kalamity class.

mapuc · 09-25-11, 06:12 PM

Some weeks ago I saw a video on youtube. I can't remember what it was about. but I remember a viewer wrote, that his friend, who was in the army, had told him. that there are huge military movements in USA, Europe and Asia and they should be waiting to receive the red alert at any time.

I do not know about the knowledge of the american soldie, but here in Denmark or Sweden an ordinary soldier gets none info whatsoever.

Not like that I wrote about above.

Markus

Rockstar · 09-25-11, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Some weeks ago I saw a video on youtube. I can't remember what it was about. but I remember a viewer wrote, that his friend, who was in the army, had told him. that there are huge military movements in USA, Europe and Asia and they should be waiting to receive the red alert at any time.

I do not know about the knowledge of the american soldie, but here in Denmark or Sweden an ordinary soldier gets none info whatsoever.

Not like that I wrote about above.

Markus

It's space aliens man. Why do think we stopped going to the moon? They kicked us off that's why and now they're preparing to launch an invasion against earth.

I got my survival bunker all stocked up for the big one. Ain't no aliens gonna get me without a fight.

.

magicstix · 09-25-11, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

It's space aliens man. Why do think we stopped going to the moon? They kicked us off that's why and now they're preparing to launch an invasion against earth.

I got my survival bunker all stocked up for the big one. Ain't no aliens gonna get me without a fight.

.

Nah, it's just the New World Order prepping for their overthrow of human civilization.

09-25-11, 07:44 PM

I suspect we're seeing just the opposite effect to that proposed by the OP.

Too be sure, armaments have increased in cost almost exponentially but firepower can be delivered with a theoretical accuracy that was only dreamed of in the Cold War era. Armed drones are far less destabilizing than fleets of bombers.

Most of the 30,000+ nuclear weapons deployed in 1989 have been dismantled, their fissile material often recycled as fuel for civilian power plants. The 40,000 Soviet tanks that were once perceived to be ready to pour across the Inter-German border have mostly become consumer goods after being scrapped as unnecessary. Chemical weapons arsenals have been mostly destroyed, there are fewer aircraft carriers at sea than at any time since the London Treaty was signed in 1930 and ideological differences between the global powers are not really seen as a cause for armed conflict anymore.

It seems that people have forgotten that the overwhelming tendency is for developed countries to wage war against each other in times of plenty, when surpluses can be spent freely and massive internal debts incurred to pay for it all. Right now nobody can afford to war on a whim and negotiation for disputed resources in invariably cheaper than combat when cash is low.

My wife considers me an incurable pessimist, something that I would certainly agree with but I really think that global war or even war between regional superpowers is off the table for the foreseeable future. To be sure, there will be speed bumps, assorted crisis' and the odd angry shot, but a repeat of the numbered World Wars or even a significant regional conflict in the early 21st Century is very unlikely in my opinion.

Opinion offered up with the caveat that you can't fix stupid so fear, demagoguery, paranoia and greed can change this prediction in unpredictable ways.

mapuc · 09-25-11, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

It's space aliens man. Why do think we stopped going to the moon? They kicked us off that's why and now they're preparing to launch an invasion against earth.

I got my survival bunker all stocked up for the big one. Ain't no aliens gonna get me without a fight.

.

Don't be afraid. Every Aliens are like Paul. Just give him a joint and he will be your friend for life.

Markus

09-25-11, 06:12 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,563 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Some weeks ago I saw a video on youtube. I can't remember what it was about. but I remember a viewer wrote, that his friend, who was in the army, had told him. that there are huge military movements in USA, Europe and Asia and they should be waiting to receive the red alert at any time. I do not know about the knowledge of the american soldie, but here in Denmark or Sweden an ordinary soldier gets none info whatsoever. Not like that I wrote about above. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

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09-25-11, 07:44 PM	#9
Randomizer Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I suspect we're seeing just the opposite effect to that proposed by the OP. Too be sure, armaments have increased in cost almost exponentially but firepower can be delivered with a theoretical accuracy that was only dreamed of in the Cold War era. Armed drones are far less destabilizing than fleets of bombers. Most of the 30,000+ nuclear weapons deployed in 1989 have been dismantled, their fissile material often recycled as fuel for civilian power plants. The 40,000 Soviet tanks that were once perceived to be ready to pour across the Inter-German border have mostly become consumer goods after being scrapped as unnecessary. Chemical weapons arsenals have been mostly destroyed, there are fewer aircraft carriers at sea than at any time since the London Treaty was signed in 1930 and ideological differences between the global powers are not really seen as a cause for armed conflict anymore. It seems that people have forgotten that the overwhelming tendency is for developed countries to wage war against each other in times of plenty, when surpluses can be spent freely and massive internal debts incurred to pay for it all. Right now nobody can afford to war on a whim and negotiation for disputed resources in invariably cheaper than combat when cash is low. My wife considers me an incurable pessimist, something that I would certainly agree with but I really think that global war or even war between regional superpowers is off the table for the foreseeable future. To be sure, there will be speed bumps, assorted crisis' and the odd angry shot, but a repeat of the numbered World Wars or even a significant regional conflict in the early 21st Century is very unlikely in my opinion. Opinion offered up with the caveat that you can't fix stupid so fear, demagoguery, paranoia and greed can change this prediction in unpredictable ways.