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Old 09-12-11, 01:58 PM   #1
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These guys seem to be forgetting what happened the last time they picked a fight with Israel. I guess the IAF could use some live target practice.
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Old 09-12-11, 02:18 PM   #2
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You mean ammunition explosion on cyprus i guess?
Ask Sky, it was pointed out that he was getting confused but as usual he is saying he is still right so there must be some secret explosions and secret threats that no one else has heard about.
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Old 09-12-11, 06:17 PM   #3
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These guys seem to be forgetting what happened the last time they picked a fight with Israel. I guess the IAF could use some live target practice.
If, there would be a war between Israel and Egypt. It would not be a 1973 war. A war between western technologies and russian technologies

After the peacetreaty, Egypt became a good friend to USA and have bought lots of military technologies.

So it would be a very modern warfare, where both having modern fighters and up-to-date weaponary.

Me, my self, sincerely hope, that there will be peace in this area. I know that 99% of the population down there, don't have problems living with each other.

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Old 09-12-11, 08:12 PM   #4
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If, there would be a war between Israel and Egypt, It would not be a 1973 war. A war between western technologies and russian technologies.
If I recall, even 1973 was a shock to the Israelis, after the rout they delivered to the Arabs in the '67 war. The Egyptian inflicted quite a few setbacks on the counter-attacking IDF armor and aircraft in the first few days of the Yom Kippur War with the Sagger missiles and the SAM umbrella. It was when the Egyptians attempted to exploit their initial success and moved into the open that things begin to go awry for them.
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If I recall, even 1973 was a shock to the Israelis, after the rout they delivered to the Arabs in the '67 war. The Egyptian inflicted quite a few setbacks on the counter-attacking IDF armor and aircraft in the first few days of the Yom Kippur War with the Sagger missiles and the SAM umbrella. It was when the Egyptians attempted to exploit their initial success and moved into the open that things begin to go awry for them.
True indeed. I forgot about that. I use to tell people that, when they say that Israel beat Egypt real good in 1973 war.

However, a war today, would be a war between two combatants that's equal in technologies.

And if I do not remember it wrong, the israel had to fight it's enemies on 3 different fronts.

I have tried to speculate on how a future war between Israel on the one side and Egypt, Turkey, on the other side. In my "brainstorm" Iran and syria came to be involved in this conflict. Then I stopped "brainstorming"

Cause, in some situations I came to a point, where Israel was threaten upon it's survival and the question in this case is:
Would a country that have neuclearbombs, us them??

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The Israeli equipment wasn't all that much better. The big difference was the Israelis were fighting for their survival and the Arabs weren't.
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Old 09-13-11, 05:22 AM   #7
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Israel'S strategic position has become incredibly difficult. Hamas and Hezbollah being armed to the teeth with modern missiles and massive bunkers. Ties with Turkey deleted. Syria hostile, cooperating with N-Korea. Egypt turning hostile. Lebanon an assembly area for Iran. Iran turning nuclear. Military high-tech being spread. The Palestinians. Growing share of Arabs in internal Israeli population. Demographic long-term problems. And I bet money on a nuclear arms race in the region, started by Iran, followed by Saudi-Arabia, Turkey, Egypt.

You cannot hold out forever when being challenged on so many fronts. Fighting it must, what else can it do? Supporting it we must, what else would be the morally right thing to do?

But in the long run I don't see it winning.
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You cannot hold out forever when being challenged on so many fronts. Fighting it must, what else can it do? Supporting it we must, what else would be the morally right thing to do?

But in the long run I don't see it winning.
That makes no sense.
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Old 09-13-11, 07:21 AM   #9
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Israel'S strategic position has become incredibly difficult.

You cannot hold out forever when being challenged on so many fronts. Fighting it must, what else can it do?
"Throw your soldiers into positions whence there is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight. If they will face death, there is nothing they may not achieve."
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These guys seem to be forgetting what happened the last time they picked a fight with Israel. I guess the IAF could use some live target practice.
The last time they weren't flying the same planes.

Today their Army and Air Force are just about matched in technology and numbers. The Israeli Navy has better ships but far fewer of them, Egypt had 11 major combatants vs 3; most of Egypt's warships are ASW ships countering the Israeli Navy's one strength.
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The last time they weren't flying the same planes.

Today their Army and Air Force are just about matched in technology and numbers. The Israeli Navy has better ships but far fewer of them, Egypt had 11 major combatants vs 3; most of Egypt's warships are ASW ships countering the Israeli Navy's one strength.
Didn't seem to matter much the last time.
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