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Old 09-10-11, 08:23 AM   #1
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You are having a laugh MH, read what he actually wrote.
A good analysis would have a sound basis in facts not mixed up fiction like he presents.
He is generally correct.
The point about Egypt that you outlined is simply not relevant in the big picture.
We all know that Israeli-Egyptian relation had been very colorful.
I remember discussing "what if" of government change in Egypt and worthiness of peace treaty like 10 years ago and scenario was similar to current one.
Still relation with Mubarak had been very solid on many issues.
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Old 09-10-11, 08:33 AM   #2
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He is generally correct.
Generally correct? specificly very wrong.

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The point about Egypt that you outlined is simply not relevant in the big picture.
In the bigger picture you must explore the natural outcome of supporting brutal dictators.
If Canada paid a brutal dictatorship in America to pretend to be friends with Mexico the Americans would increasingly hate their own leadership and the Canadians and the Mexicans. The longer it went on the worse it would build up. The loss of a dictator now is going to be less worrisome than the result of still keeping that situation running.

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Still relation with Mubarak had been very solid on many issues.
The only thing really solid was his bank accounts
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Old 09-10-11, 08:41 AM   #3
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In the bigger picture you must explore the natural outcome of supporting brutal dictators.
If Canada paid a brutal dictatorship in America to pretend to be friends with Mexico the Americans would increasingly hate their own leadership and the Canadians and the Mexicans. The longer it went on the worse it would build up. The loss of a dictator now is going to be less worrisome than the result of still keeping that situation running.


The only thing really solid was his bank accounts
Still its irrelevant.
Egypt was ruled by military or dictators through all its modern history on Soviet side or American.
Democracy in western sense was never an serious topic there-the issue was more of Arab pride or pan Arabian domination.
Asking question why democracy hasn't evolved there like in the west not relevant to this topic.
Its more relevant to theological discussion about culture and history of ME.
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