This Retribution Will Not Be Televised

Jimbuna · 09-07-11, 02:18 PM

I doubt any of us will see an end to rerrorism in our lifetimes....better to do something than nothing though...otherwise what we may well see is a rapid growth in terrorism events/activities.

09-07-11, 03:06 PM

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....better to do something than nothing though

That depends, it is better to do "something" if it gives a positive result, if the "something" has a negative result you would be better doing nothing.

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Reading this I think of profiling.

How to make it work and how to prevent the specific terrorists you want to fight from getting round the profiling?
Plus how to not piss off people who are not terrorists but may fit your "profile", look at the grief France had with profiling over Algeria.

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Agreed. Let's go with Dowly on this. "War on a few baddies"

Yes, sounds like the end of post#2

AVGWarhawk · 09-07-11, 03:15 PM

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How to make it work and how to prevent the specific terrorists you want to fight from getting round the profiling?
Plus how to not piss off people who are not terrorists but may fit your "profile", look at the grief France had with profiling over Algeria.

We can't make it work by the book. We can not get around profiling. So what is the next best recourse? Go after the generals and let the cohesive force lose ground. This is the road (after going into Iraq for what good reason I can not give and Afghanistan) that has been taken. We have come full circle. We can only hit them here and there. This is no clear line or front. There is no parcel of land we are looking to take back. It is hard to define what the war on terrorism really is. Again, I refer back to the baddies.

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Yes, sounds like the end of post#2

Yes it certainly does!

Catfish · 09-07-11, 03:29 PM

The cause for this "war against terorism" is still umm let's say "debatable.

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/35/35438/1.html
Sorry, in german - but i did not find the original. Thing is, the coordination of the attacks were impossible to stage for terrorists, the interceptors were guided in the wrong direction, the terrorists (?) exactly knew where the radar shadows were - very strange material

The holding pattern:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13723849/T...-Scrambles-129

Deleted tapes, scramble:
http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=2028

Exercises for hijacking the planes, NORAD:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16411947/N...Hijack-Summary

Anyone remembers the "Lone gunmen". Government lets passenger crash into the WTC, objective being a pretext for new wars with a massive and ongoing increase of defence funds:

Official 9/11 report.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Initiative to find out what happened:
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-10-0...ion-initiative

From Neal's link:

" ... In the months afterward, the U.S. did what we're accustomed to doing after being assaulted.
We waged a war.
We invaded the country from which the attack had originated.
We took down the regime.
Two years later, we invaded another country and took down another regime, associating it (erroneously) with the terrorists who had struck us. ..."

Well ..

I wonder if politicians know what was really staged and happened, whether they were informed about what really happened, and whether at least Bush knew it we will never know.
Obama leads a more professional war against terrorist leaders than Bush with those drones, but with a lot of collateral and political damage.
Founded on a cause that is .. debatable.

09-07-11, 04:00 PM

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The cause for this "war against terorism" is still umm let's say "debatable.

Only for "truthers"

Catfish · 09-07-11, 04:31 PM

Only for truthers ?!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16411947/N...Hijack-Summary

Hm let's say there are some who "want to believe" and go too far ignoring facts, but there are also the others who conveniently ignore things that do not fit into their view of the world.
The article mentioned above is from september 7th 2011, and has lots of links to fresh, previously unpublished material. We will see what leaks to the public in the next years, even if we will never really know what happened.

ZeeWolf · 09-07-11, 04:58 PM

I would love to see us killing the true terrorists that in fact Americas enemies,
those out to enslave us to debt. All those traitors that are connected to the
Internationalist Banksters. They are all like those connected to Ben Laden,
except they are far more dangerous to our nations survival then those tribe(s)
of camel jockeys ever could.
There was a time in America when we would have hanged them way before it
came to the disgraceful situation we face today.

Tchocky · 09-07-11, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

They are all like those connected to Ben Laden

Most treacherous of the Scottish Highlands

Jimbuna · 09-07-11, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

I would love to see us killing the true terrorists that in fact Americas enemies,
those out to enslave us to debt. All those traitors that are connected to the
Internationalist Banksters. They are all like those connected to Ben Laden,
except they are far more dangerous to our nations survival then those tribe(s)
of camel jockeys ever could.
There was a time in America when we would have hanged them way before it
came to the disgraceful situation we face today.

EH?

09-07-11, 02:18 PM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,876 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt any of us will see an end to rerrorism in our lifetimes....better to do something than nothing though...otherwise what we may well see is a rapid growth in terrorism events/activities. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-07-11, 03:29 PM	#4
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,800 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	The cause for this "war against terorism" is still umm let's say "debatable. http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/35/35438/1.html Sorry, in german - but i did not find the original. Thing is, the coordination of the attacks were impossible to stage for terrorists, the interceptors were guided in the wrong direction, the terrorists (?) exactly knew where the radar shadows were - very strange material The holding pattern: http://www.scribd.com/doc/13723849/T...-Scrambles-129 Deleted tapes, scramble: http://www.oredigger61.org/?p=2028 Exercises for hijacking the planes, NORAD: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16411947/N...Hijack-Summary Anyone remembers the "Lone gunmen". Government lets passenger crash into the WTC, objective being a pretext for new wars with a massive and ongoing increase of defence funds: Official 9/11 report. http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf Initiative to find out what happened: http://911blogger.com/news/2010-10-0...ion-initiative From Neal's link: " ... In the months afterward, the U.S. did what we're accustomed to doing after being assaulted. We waged a war. We invaded the country from which the attack had originated. We took down the regime. Two years later, we invaded another country and took down another regime, associating it (erroneously) with the terrorists who had struck us. ..." Well .. I wonder if politicians know what was really staged and happened, whether they were informed about what really happened, and whether at least Bush knew it we will never know. Obama leads a more professional war against terrorist leaders than Bush with those drones, but with a lot of collateral and political damage. Founded on a cause that is .. debatable. Last edited by Catfish; 09-07-11 at 03:48 PM.

09-07-11, 04:31 PM	#6
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,800 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Only for truthers ?! http://www.scribd.com/doc/16411947/N...Hijack-Summary Hm let's say there are some who "want to believe" and go too far ignoring facts, but there are also the others who conveniently ignore things that do not fit into their view of the world. The article mentioned above is from september 7th 2011, and has lots of links to fresh, previously unpublished material. We will see what leaks to the public in the next years, even if we will never really know what happened. Last edited by Catfish; 09-08-11 at 04:04 AM.

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09-07-11, 04:58 PM	#7
ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	I would love to see us killing the true terrorists that in fact Americas enemies, those out to enslave us to debt. All those traitors that are connected to the Internationalist Banksters. They are all like those connected to Ben Laden, except they are far more dangerous to our nations survival then those tribe(s) of camel jockeys ever could. There was a time in America when we would have hanged them way before it came to the disgraceful situation we face today.