Nato sends more troops to Kosovo after border unrest

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Look how wonderfuly multiculturalism doesn't work.
It breeds problems, and death.

What multiculturalism ?? We're talking about different countries here. Even in the times of Yugoslavia they were different republics. It's nationalism here that brings death and misery. Tito knew how to keep quiet nationalism and Yugoslavia was the most succesfull multicultural experiment ever. It's when nationalist jack-asses like Milosevich, Tudjman and Karadzic came to power the wars erupted.
Another from-where-ever-you-are talking out of his ass, knowing wha's the root of the problem here, thinking they have the solution to a 1000 years bloody history like they had in 1991-1995,

@Jimbuna

Climate is everywhere nice. Especially Dalmacija (Croatia).

I found this one just for taste: Croatian Istra, house 55m2, surrounding land 356m2, road, grill, 3km from coast. Only downside it has no electricity, just a generator. EUR 55 000

http://www.salomon.si/oglas.aspx/01/...m/Hrva%C5%A1ka

Then there's a house being sold in my own village. All infrastructure, Alpine scenery, 175km from seaide, big house on 500m2 land, EUR 395 000

http://www.salomon.si/oglas.aspx/01/...njska%20regija

Originally Posted by Betonov

What multiculturalism ??

Tito knew how to keep quiet nationalism and Yugoslavia was the most succesfull multicultural experiment ever.

You answer your own question. Or do you contradict yourself.

Your "succesful multicultural experiment" is a failure.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

You answer your own question. Or do you contradict yourself.

Your "succesful multicultural experiment" is a failure.

''our succesfull multicultural experiment'' was succesfull and try to remember that Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and so on were once one country, a tight federation of republics where one was able to travel trough freely and move anywhere he wanted within those republics. Serbs lived next-door to Bosnians, Slovenians next door to Croatians and Croatians next door to Albanians and everyone loved eachother, had weekend picnics, shared seaside apartments until some people decided to screw things up. And they succeded. The experiment was succesfull until the 1980's, even more than in Norway. The experiment failed because of some retarded individuals and not the multiculturalism.

But hey, I understand your problem grasping all this. It's hard for an extreme right winger to put some new unbiased information into their thick, empty skulls

Originally Posted by Betonov

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The experiment failed.

These are the three Key Words of your entire rant.
The rest matters not.

[Respenus]

It should be noted it worked, as long as Tito, also known as the last Hapsburg was in charge. I'd recommend watching Death of Yugoslavia on Youtube, it shows perfectly how step by step, creeping nationalism managed to destroy the experiment. Neither I, nor Betonov are saying that things were perfect or that there were no cultural tensions under Tito. While they were usually "taken care of" by Tito and the Party by any means necessary (which I cannot condone), the general feeling was as described by Betonov. Politicians, working to advance their own position, used the genie (or better yet, Pandora's box) of nationalism to get what they wanted. That is also what they got; war, destruction and suffering for the people and fat pockets or power (or both) for themselves.

Even today, there are still buildings in the Croatian littoral that stand as a silent reminder of what happened there. No owners and no-body to tear them down. Old shelled shells of a, in the end, failed experiment. While there was never any Yugoslav nation or culture that developed naturally (outside of imposed centralism in the later years and in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia), people lived and worked together. And that is what a successful multicultural "experiment" looks like (although the question is far more complex than my sentence shows and could fill pages and pages).

An extra: Here's our boys!

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Betonov

But hey, I understand your problem grasping all this. It's hard for an extreme right winger to put some new unbiased information into their thick, empty skulls

Name calling?

Originally Posted by Snestorm

You answer your own question. Or do you contradict yourself.

Your "succesful multicultural experiment" is a failure.

Originally Posted by Snestorm

These are the three Key Words of your entire rant.
The rest matters not.

Provocation?

If this continues and tends to get rather more tedious or interesting depends on the fancies of others I advise the thread be called " Neal sends more Moderators to thread after topic unrest"

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Lord Justice

If this continues and tends to get rather more tedious or interesting depends on the fancies of others I advise the thread be called " Neal sends more Moderators to thread after topic unrest"

I'm from the Balkans, threats of moderators don't scare me.
There are far worse name callings on this forum than an extreme right winger.

Maybe he'll give me an infraction for real-estate salles without a permit. Jimbuna, if you're really interested I can mediate, I know the language

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Lord Justice

Name calling?



Provocation?

If this continues and tends to get rather more tedious or interesting depends on the fancies of others I advise the thread be called " Neal sends more Moderators to thread after topic unrest"

Originally Posted by Betonov

I'm from the Balkans, threats of moderators don't scare me.
There are far worse name callings on this forum than an extreme right winger.

Maybe he'll give me an infraction for real-estate salles without a permit. Jimbuna, if you're really interested I can mediate, I know the language

FYI moderators are indeed monitoring this thread and as such I have just issued my first warning.

Name calling and insults to others constitutes a clear violation of the forum rules.

Can we all simply debate in an acceptable respectful manner please.

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