Ships sinking mechanic

[spardha]

This has been posted to the mod section too http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...173193&page=35

But I thought id post it here for TDW to see this is me sinking what i believe to be the Ark Royal last night, it was a messy situation with a long story but I hit the Ark with 3 Torps to the bow but it still sank level until it was fully submerged.


Video of Ark Sinking.

[0rpheus]

Originally Posted by spardha

This has been posted to the mod section too http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...173193&page=35

But I thought id post it here for TDW to see this is me sinking what i believe to be the Ark Royal last night, it was a messy situation with a long story but I hit the Ark with 3 Torps to the bow but it still sank level until it was fully submerged.


Video of Ark Sinking.

That vid is very similar to what I see on most of my downed vessels... wonder if this means that I've done something wrong with the FX update, or is it meant to be like that? Sure I've never seen one tip sideways or sink heavy from one end in SH5 as they do in 4, but I have seen a few break in two. Maybe TDW knows?

[spardha]

This is why I posted the vid, much easier to get the point across.

[mobucks]

EDIT: FX's Zones file was being overwritten by OHII, this is why I was not seeing any realistic sinkings. Zedi said the zones file from OHII is wrong, so i just copied FX zones into its own modfolder and enabled it last.



BARF needs to be incorperated into this seasons generation of mods. I remember BARF did work as advertised. I had used the mod for so long since it came out, i forget how uninteresting the stock sinking was untill this go around. If FX does it as well, Im not seeing it. That could be because FX is so high in my modlist.

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sobers chimney smoke V2
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MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel
OPEN HORIZONS II
20% mines ice dolphines v2
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OH II and Light Campaign Radio Messages v3

[spardha]

Im not running OH II though, So shouldn't the sinking be better than what im seeing?

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by mobucks

EDIT: FX's Zones file was being overwritten by OHII, this is why I was not seeing any realistic sinkings. Zedi said the zones file from OHII is wrong, so i just copied FX zones into its own modfolder and enabled it last.



BARF needs to be incorperated into this seasons generation of mods. I remember BARF did work as advertised. I had used the mod for so long since it came out, i forget how uninteresting the stock sinking was untill this go around. If FX does it as well, Im not seeing it. That could be because FX is so high in my modlist.

FX_Update hasn't revamped the warship damage/flooding model yet

[mobucks]

to be completely truthful I winmerged the pertinent BARF values into FX's Zones.cfg.

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by mobucks

to be completely truthful I winmerged the pertinent BARF values into FX's Zones.cfg.

Maybe I'm confused with the procession of events , but how'd this work out for you?

[mia389]

Originally Posted by mobucks

to be completely truthful I winmerged the pertinent BARF values into FX's Zones.cfg.

and please share

[mia389]

Originally Posted by mobucks

to be completely truthful I winmerged the pertinent BARF values into FX's Zones.cfg.

I tried to do this but I kept getting a CTD when I would sink a ship. I just copied and pasted this part

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;*******************************************************
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CargoType=None
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Critical=Yes
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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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CargoType=None

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Critical=No
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CargoType=None
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Critical=No
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CargoType=None
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Critical=No
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CargoType=None
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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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;*******************************************************

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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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Critic Flotation=0.300000
Critical=No
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HitPoints=60
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Armor Level=-1
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Critical=No
FloodingTime=590.999996
CargoType=None


[Floodf]
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Critical=No
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Critical=No
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HitPoints=50
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Critical=No
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