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Old 07-21-11, 02:47 PM   #1
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I will admit, I don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to rape.
As well you shouldn't. But...

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I also find the double standard quite appalling.
But it is also very real, hence movies like Three In The Attic. I will say that I'd feel the same way you do if I was abducted by a man for that purpose, but a woman? I should be so lucky.
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Old 07-21-11, 03:00 PM   #2
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I should be so lucky.
The gentleman in question doesn't seem to have felt himself to be lucky, considering he went to the police to report the incident even though it exposed his own crime of breaking into the salon.

He did not consent to the sexual activities he was forced to participate in. That is, simply put, rape. If it had been a male shop owner subjecting a female robber to sexual acts without her consent, there would be an outcry against the owner. Or are people actually saying they consider rape to be an acceptable punishment for breaking into a store?
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Old 07-21-11, 04:02 PM   #3
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Razark, play with fire and mean harm to another being - and accept the risk to get your fingers burnt. The man tried to rob her. He was the attacker, she was the intended victim. That she was powerful enough to refuse her role and turn the situation against him, would not have played any role - if he would not have decided first to rob her.

There are worse things that could have happened to the guy. For example going into a Russian prison for one or two years and getting used by male inmates who do not need to consume Viagra at all to become entertained by him for slightly longer than just three days.

Get my point, yes? The guy was a robber, and he planned to use his assumed superiority against an assumed weak girl. He got spanked, but will survive it. As far as I'm concerned, close the file, the two involved subjects are straight with each other, save the tax money and avoid court proceedings. Maybe this experience will motivate him never to try to rob a woman again. If so, he indeed would have learned a precious lesson.

BTW, there are countries in the Western world where the woman would have had the right to shoot him to death in self-defence. Or more generally said: where the shop owner, independent of his gender, would have had the right to shoot to death the attacker, independent of his gender.

Don't want to get harmed while attacking somebody else for no good purpose? Then don't attack somebody else. That's what it comes down to for me - after having been the target of intended street robbery myself three times and having driven them away every time, and having been attacked by a junkey with a knife and seriously injuring him and taking him out of action rather hard after he cut me.
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Old 07-21-11, 04:24 PM   #4
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The man tried to rob her. He was the attacker, she was the intended victim.
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decided first to rob her.
The guy was a robber, and he planned to use his assumed superiority against an assumed weak girl.
...motivate him never to try to rob a woman again.
...learned a precious lesson.
A. I have a problem with vigilantism. Legal systems are established for a reason. Self defense is one thing, vigilantism is a completely separate story.
B. Yes, he tried to rob the salon. Rape is not an acceptable response to attempted robbery. Two wrongs do not make a right.
C. If the genders had been switched, this thread would be completely different. If a man kidnapped and raped a woman, repeatedly, for three days, there would be no question on the morality. The woman was the rapist in this situation, and the fact that he tried to rob her in no way excuses the rape.

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BTW, there are countries in the Western world where the woman would have had the right to shoot him to death in self-defence.
Self defense, yes. If he attacks her, shoot him in self defense. Handcuffing him, drugging him, and raping him is not self defense. Beating him unconcious? Self defense. Non-consensual sex acts? Not self defense. There is no possible way she could say "I feared that he might hurt me while he was chained to the radiator, so I had to rape him to keep myself safe."

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That's what it comes down to for me - after having been the target of intended street robbery myself three times and having driven them away every time, and having been attacked by a junkey with a knife and seriously injuring him and taking him out of action rather hard after he cut me.
Are you claiming that you had the right to kidnap the robbers and rape them after you had already removed the threat?
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Old 07-21-11, 09:25 PM   #5
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The gentleman in question doesn't seem to have felt himself to be lucky, considering he went to the police to report the incident even though it exposed his own crime of breaking into the salon.
Apparently his police report started with: "Dear Penthouse..."
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